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LED lamps for bullet lights

I have some LED reflector shape lamps that should replace the incandescent bulbs in the ceiling bullet fixtures. These are in the ceiling of my MKII.
[B][SIZE="4"]Original:
[/SIZE][/B][IMG]http://www.taillightking.com/images/LightBulbs/94_InteriorBulb.JPG[/IMG]

[B][SIZE="4"]Replacement:[/SIZE][/B]
[IMG]http://marineledshop.com/image/cache/data/products/marine-ba15s-bayonet-...

Problem is, the angle (dead rise?) of the reflector makes it difficult to impossible to fit the fixture. Anybody know a source of LED replacement bulbs that will fit those fixtures? The ones I have a close, but not quite.

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Greg Jackson
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Greg, I got ours off eBay. They are a long, narrow cylinder with LEDs all around the cylinder and on the end, I believe there are 24 LEDs on them. I paid about 3 bucks apiece for them, including shipping. They are a bit tight but not that bad. I got warm white for over the dinette and the regular bright white for over the sink work area. The new style ones with the same shape but with SMD LEDs would likely be even smaller in diameter.

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[QUOTE=SailorJackson;15863]
Problem is, the angle (dead rise?) of the reflector makes it difficult to impossible to fit the fixture. Anybody know a source of LED replacement bulbs that will fit those fixtures? The ones I have a close, but not quite.
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I've tried this same model lamp with the same problem. A bit of a bummer as I'm most excited about this kind of LED. Please keep me posted if you find something that works (with photos)!

David
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Hull #2133 -- 2003 MKII
Seattle, WA

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First picture below is similar to what I am using now, though ours are shorter and narrower and with 24 leds, not 45 as pictured. Second picture is the newer style with SMD led's, they are even narrower. The length of the ones I got keeps the bulb end below the end of the housing. I also got similar ones for the other lamps though they are a different base style. You can still get this off eBay for $3-$4 each. I've had mine for 6 seasons now and they are still fine.

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I have been trying to find a viable replacement for these incandescent bulbs for a while now. Yesterday I found what looks to be an excellent LED replacement and possibly an improvement in lighting. I plan on buying these immediately. $15 each.

Marinebeam.com

[URL="http://store.marinebeam.com/eyeball-fixture-bulbs.html"]http://store.marinebeam.com/eyeball-fixture-bulbs.html[/URL]

Quote from the website

“This Power LED bulb is designed specifically for the swivel-type "eyeball" or "vent" type fixtures that are used in many boats and RV's. These also fit the single swivel fixtures that are used in Catalina and other sailboats and RV's”

Nile Schneider
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Lake Champlain, VT

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[QUOTE=VermontSailor;15874]I have been trying to find a viable replacement for these incandescent bulbs for a while now. Yesterday I found what looks to be an excellent LED replacement and possibly an improvement in lighting. I plan on buying these immediately. $15 each.
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Would be really interested to hear what you think of these. My only concern with this kind of light is that it would cast a narrow beam and not light up as much of the cabin as the existing incandescents.

David
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I want to use them as spot lights or task lights with a narrow beam, since that should be the intent of the swivel fixtures. The incandescent bulbs cast too wide of a beam, not putting enough light on the task at hand. We use the lights on the port and starboard sides for general lighting or reading. I personally prefer indirect lighting not a glaring, unfocused bulb overhead.

I will let you know how they workout in January.

Nile Schneider
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Lake Champlain, VT

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Yeah, let us know how they fit. I've been using ones similar to the 'Vision Technology' bulbs referenced in Bud's email above. They work fine but seem to fit very tight - (hard to twist into place).

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[url]http://store.marinebeam.com/bulbs.html[/url]

I have replaced all the bulbs but one on the interior of my cabin with florescent LED bulbs and reading lights. The only light I have not got the bulb replacement for is the light up over the shelf by the chart table. Keep in mind my boat is a MKI. I got all the bulbs from marinebeam. I can have all the lights on and the total draw was less than 2 amps and I used the warm light bulb replacement in each case.
Going back to the original question on this thread is the link at the top is marinebeams "find your bulb" page.

Gary Bain
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Catalina 36', Hull #: 1056, Year: 1990, Engine: M-35
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I bought one of these:

[url]http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B003TKI4VU/ref=wms_ohs_product[/url]

To try out. Since I have Amazon Prime, I could get one of them for 8 bucks shipped so I figured why not.

It fits the socket perfectly, is easy to get in because it's on the large side, and the quality of the light is superb, exactly the same warm white as the incandescent bulbs I have now. Compared to the 12 watt ANCOR bulbs I've been using, though, this one is dim. However, it's almost exactly as bright as the incandescents that the PO put on the boat and which I have been slowly replacing... So if you're not already using the brightest incandescents, it is probably good for you, but if you're already using 12 watt incandescents... Anyway some might like it.

David
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Anyone else try anything new lately? Had another bulb in the bullet fixtures go today, and still looking for a suitable replacement that is as bright as the incandescents but also casts a relatively broad beam. I use those lights for general cabin lighting; spotlights over the dinner table don't work so well. Thanks!

David
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David, thanks for the Amazon tip. I just replaced the four spots over the salon table and galley with the $8 LEDs from Amazon. They fit perfectly and look great. They were the final incandescent replacements...nothing high current draw remaining except a two fluorescents in the galley, then all the lighting on the boat will be LED.

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Finally purchased the Eyeball replacement LED bulbs from Marinebeam.com, they had been out of stock for a while.

[URL="http://store.marinebeam.com/eyeball-fixture-bulbs.html"]http://store.marinebeam.com/eyeball-fixture-bulbs.html[/URL]

They were worth the wait. They are 3 Watts at 180 lumens vs 1.44 Watts at 80 lumens for the Amazon bulbs. The lens in the bulb puts a lot of light on the table area and lights up the rest of the immediate area with nice even lighting. The incandescent bulbs have a harsh darker transition band just above the cushion on the bulkhead.

The previous incandescent bulbs did not put enough light on the table to play cards with out additional lighting.

Here is a photo, with just the two replacement LEDs on over the table.

Nile Schneider
Mañana C36 #1798
Lake Champlain, VT

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[QUOTE=LCBrandt;17580]nothing high current draw remaining except a two fluorescents in the galley, then all the lighting on the boat will be LED.[/QUOTE]

Larry, we replaced our fluorescent with a Marinebeam LED

Stu Jackson, C34IA Secretary, C34 #224, 1986, SR/FK, M25 engine, Rocna 10 (22#)

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[QUOTE=VermontSailor;17648]Finally purchased the Eyeball replacement LED bulbs from Marinebeam.com, they had been out of stock for a while.

[URL="http://store.marinebeam.com/eyeball-fixture-bulbs.html"]http://store.marinebeam.com/eyeball-fixture-bulbs.html[/URL]

They were worth the wait. They are 3 Watts at 180 lumens vs 1.44 Watts at 80 lumens for the Amazon bulbs. The lens in the bulb puts a lot of light on the table area and lights up the rest of the immediate area with nice even lighting. The incandescent bulbs have a harsh darker transition band just above the cushion on the bulkhead.

The previous incandescent bulbs did not put enough light on the table to play cards with out additional lighting.

Here is a photo, with just the two replacement LEDs on over the table.[/QUOTE]

I just installed a bunch of these last week on a Pearson 36-2. Not a bad light at all. Not too cold but certainly not what I would consider "warm" either..

The BIG benefit in buying from Jeff/Marine Beam is the constant current circuitry which many el-cheapo's simply don't have..

Many do not know this but Marine Beam supplies a some of the MAJOR marine lighting companies and they sell the same bulb with a different label for slightly more money... It is good stuff whether you buy it direct from Marine Beam or through a re-seller of Marine Beam products....

-Maine Sail
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I'm now another fan of the Marinebeam bulbs for our bullet fixtures.

I was initially skeptical -- I've now tried a few cheaper LEDs, and hadn't found anything I liked as much as the Ancor incandescents. I think part of it is that I've been buying the biggest, brightest Ancor lamps. Sure, if you buy one of the smaller Ancor lamps, most LEDs will be brighter -- but I've been struggling to find an LED as bright and which casts as wide a light as the super-bright, large-lamp Ancor bulbs I've been using.

Marinebeam comes *really* close. If I put one Marinebeam bulb and one bright Ancor incandescent into the same fixture, and use one light at a time, there is a small difference but not a huge one -- the Marinebeams are nearly as bright and illuminate almost as much of the cabin.

Highly recommended!

David
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Seattle, WA

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So, I'm sold on the Marine beam bullet light for the salon fixtures. Now I'm trying to decide about the reading lights (bell shaped) for the rest of the boat. Any ideas? thanks.

Bill

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I just purchased 12V two pin LEDs on Amazon for my new to me C375, they worked great in my C320.
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07NK79TRR/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_...

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I have an 83 mk 1, sounds like most of this thread is for mk II bullet lights. Hope y'all dont mind me changing direction a bit. I am having trouble replacing the incandescent fixture with an led fixture. I thought it would be as easy as cutting the wires to the old and connecting them to the new. But the new led fixtures are not lighting completely. They are way dim (way brighter when I tested them!). What am I missing ?

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Joe, Sounds lile you need to buy a $20. 00 Volt Ohm meter (commonly called; VOM) and start trouble shooting by checking the voltage appearing at the lamp terminals. The voltage should be very close to the battery voltage (12 volts).
Bill

 

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Joe, Sounds lile you need to buy a $20. 00 Volt Ohm meter (commonly called; VOM) and start trouble shooting by checking the voltage appearing at the lamp terminals. The voltage should be very close to the battery voltage (12 volts).
Bill

 

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Bill, checked today and they are registering 12v. Also was able to use a different incandescent fixure replacement to get an led to tun on which was good. But it was which was bad. I am sure more light should be emitting. Sorry for the 101 but how does amp draw on the 12 volt effect things. Exp if I pull all the incandescents which generally pull more amps that the LEDs and replace with leds will leds burn brighter because they pull less amps ?

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Joe;
The important thing here is that you are seeing the correct voltage at the lamp terminal. 12 Volts. If there was corrosion or a degradation in the wiring as you originally suspected, you would not see the 12 volts. It take far less amperage to light the LED than it does to light up an incandescent (or traditional) light bulb but you already know that. I responded to your private message with my email address and it is probably in you message box here on the forum. Did you try lighting the new LED's directly from the boat's battery and what was the result ? And how bright was the LED when connected directly to you boat's battery?

Joe ; Respond on the 'private message' service here on the forum or contact me directly on my private email address. 

Bill

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Thanks, Bill. Let me try your suggestions and I will get back with you on the other email.  Recently, I was running the engine and when I checked the LED 'was bright (as expected). I have not checked the voltage while engine running vs not running - maybe something with charging batterys.  I 'll have more as i get the time to look into it more.  THanks, Joe. 

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