A while back I put in a request for the cutless bearing removal tool. I have not had a reply from anyone so is there any way to find out when I might get it. The weather is warming up and I have the prop off....
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Ross & Joanne
Wavelength
Saint John NB
RKYC
C36 #658 TR 1987
Ross,
Some updates to our TOOLBOX were announced in our December Jibsheet, not sure if everyone saw this or if this has slowed down your results.
John Van Vessem is now in charge of the tool crib, I will drop him an email to make sure he is aware of your need.
Steve
Cepheus dream
C36 MK I # 825
MK I Tech Editor No Mas
Ross,
I emailed our tool crib manager, John VanVessem, he has no request from you. How and when did you make this request? John indicated the tool is available.
Cepheus dream
C36 MK I # 825
MK I Tech Editor No Mas
Thanks, Steve!
... and thanks to Ross for raising the question rather than just stewing about it. Hope you get your tool soon and it is a successful job.
Duane Ising - Past Commodore (2011-2012)
s/v Diva Di
1999 Catalina 36 Hull #1777
Std rig; wing keel, M35B, Delta (45#)
Punta Gorda, FL
http://www.sailblogs.com/member/diva-di/
I think I put the request in December or it may have been January.
I am putting a request in now and hopefully it will be recieved.
Ross & Joanne
Wavelength
Saint John NB
RKYC
C36 #658 TR 1987
Ross,
I wanted to look at the tool request form, and found I was not authorized to see the form. We may have some technical issues, pretty sure I am a member and my dues are payed. There may have been some mix ups changing Tool Box Managers. I will contact Alex Lynch about my lack of access and hopefully John VanVessem will have contacted you by email by now.
Steve
Cepheus dream
C36 MK I # 825
MK I Tech Editor No Mas
Thank you, again, Steve. It seems that web sites (and all things computer) are like boats: they work just fine until they don't.
I am glad you are putting John V directly in touch with Ross to get his needs taken care of. Can you also copy Alex so he can see if something is amiss?
Thanks!
Duane Ising - Past Commodore (2011-2012)
s/v Diva Di
1999 Catalina 36 Hull #1777
Std rig; wing keel, M35B, Delta (45#)
Punta Gorda, FL
http://www.sailblogs.com/member/diva-di/
Ross,
Just received an Email from John, I trust you did as well.
It would appear that we have a policy of not shipping our tools out of the country, Canada imposes a duty on this tool that is near what it is worth.
Not sure if there is a work around to this issue "A", maybe someone near the boarder can address this. Maybe one of our North Eastern members can borrow it and hand it to you accross the boarder, I do not think that would violate any NAFTA rules.
Sorry if this has held you up, we will try to make the policy more clear on our site.
In the meantime, I bet a local tool rental yard would have a puller that could be used for pressing out the cutlass bearing. If you can take them some dimensions of the components they can usually put something together. I have a Snap on puller set with lots of varied pieces to make up a wide variety of pullers. Most good shops will have something that could be adapted. The critical part is coming up with a bushing slightly smaller than the cutlass bearing to use a a driver.
Steve
Cepheus dream
C36 MK I # 825
MK I Tech Editor No Mas
That is too bad. But I do understand the issues with borders. There are probably work-arounds for getting things across the border but I will probably just make something in the shop. Looks like a fun project even if I cross over patent rights.:rolleyes:
Ross & Joanne
Wavelength
Saint John NB
RKYC
C36 #658 TR 1987
I believe the issue is not so much duty charges, since the NAFTA has made marine accessories made in the US a duty free item, but the brokerage fees charged by companies such as UPS and FedEx for clearing the items through customs. I can't say what the issues are for shipping from Canada back to the US, but I imagine they are similar. The total cost of brokerage fees can easily result in costing more than the tool is worth.
That being said, if there are enough Canadian members of the IC36A to warrant purchasing another set of tools, I would be willing to volunteer as the custodian of these to ensure they are made available to Canadian members as needed.
Tom & Janis Grover
C36 #0949
SR/WK, M25XP
Midland, ON
So I built a cutlass bearing removal tool. Borrowed some of the ideas and then using some scrap steel and threaded rod I "showed" my students how to make a 400 dollar puller. Works great. Now that I know how to use it, less than a hour to change the bearing.
So if you are in New Bruswick and need to borrow it drop me a line. I have already prommised it to another C36 at our club.
Attached are some pics.
Ross & Joanne
Wavelength
Saint John NB
RKYC
C36 #658 TR 1987
Good on 'ya, Ross!
Duane Ising - Past Commodore (2011-2012)
s/v Diva Di
1999 Catalina 36 Hull #1777
Std rig; wing keel, M35B, Delta (45#)
Punta Gorda, FL
http://www.sailblogs.com/member/diva-di/
Sorry we could not be there for you. Thanks for being there for us, nice job.
Cepheus dream
C36 MK I # 825
MK I Tech Editor No Mas
Here are some details on how it was made and a few additional photos of the parts.
Cutlass Bearing Removal Tool
The process for making this cutlass bearing removal tool is fairly straight forward. The materials I used were leftover pieces from student projects (I teach skilled trades at high school). The plate that was used was ¾” but easily could have been ½” thick. The same goes for the threaded rod; I used 1” as that is what I had, ¾” could have been used successfully. Build time was about 4 hours.
1. Cut 2 pieces of plate approximately 4” x 8”. I choose to cut the corners off as well to make it look a bit better.
2. Lay out the centers for the 3 holes in the plate. All 3 for this project were 1”; same size as the shaft and threaded rod. Spacing from center was 2 ¾”.
3. To drill the 1” hole I first predrilled with a ½” regular bit and then used a 1” 4 flute end mill in a milling machine to drill the 3 holes through both pieces of plate at the same time. This ensures exact alignment of the holes.
4. Notch 1 pc of plate to the center hole so it can be slipped over the shaft.
5. Cut 2 pieces of ½” square bar and weld each of the pieces so the nut will not spin or have to be held with a wrench. (See Photo)
6. File and grind all edges smooth.
7. Cut 2 pieces of threaded rod and weld a nut to one end of each.
8. Cut a piece of 1 3/8” ID pipe 4 1/4” long and turn both ends flat on a lathe. This tube is used to collect the old bearing as it is pushed out of the strut.
9. Cut a piece of 1” ID pipe SC40 4 ½” long and turn the outside diameter to 0.010 under 1.25”. This will allow the pieces to slide through the strut. 1” ID pipe tends to be a bit bigger than 1” so it does not have to be milled out. Sand or grind the inside of the pipe to remove any scale or roughness.
10. Cut this pipe in half, length wise on a band saw. Sand and polish all of the edges but keep the ends flat where they will be pushing up against the bearing. (See Photo)
11. You now have all of the parts made. You will also need four 1” washers, two 1 ¼” hose clamps and grease for the threaded rod.
Assemble as per the photos. Make sure you grease the threaded rod and between the washers.
Use a 1 ½” wrench to tighten the welded nuts, alternating between the two. As the push tube sleeves move into the strut you will have to remove first one hose clamp and then the other as it get close to the strut opening. Also make sure the forward plate does not lift off the shaft. I kept one hand on the plate as I took each turn on the nuts.
Once the old bearing is pushed out loosen the nuts and remove the piece of 1 3/8” pipe and the old bearing. Use some liquid soap and cover the new bearing and the inside of the strut. Slide the bearing over the shaft and put the tool back on so the new bearing centers on the 1” center hole. You may have to adjust this as it tends to slide a bit.
Tighten the nuts again, this time pushing the new cutlass bearing into place. Remove the tool and put the prop back on, all in less than an hour. Lend the tool to a friend in need.
Ross & Joanne
Wavelength
Saint John NB
RKYC
C36 #658 TR 1987
Ross,thats a nice tool..I will haul out next spring or sooner here in Vancouver.Any chance i can pay for round trip shipping for it?I had no idea the cross border tool lending wasnt going to work,Greig
"Sailing Still" 1990 C36 M25 wing
Sail Canada/Transport Canada training
Gibsons Harbour BC
www.landsendbc.ca