On a 1991 C36; the present one has been in I think 10-12 years, for about 1200 engine hours. No indication of problems.
The shaft will be part way out when we replace the shaft hose that holds the packing gland assembly to the hull, at haulout in May.
Is it necessary to drop the rudder to pull the shaft all the way out so the cutlass bearing can be replaced? What's involved in replacing the cb - how do you get it out of the strut? Would it be in chandleries, would I need Catalina Direct, or ??
Advice appreciated - thanks!
Ralph
S/V Silver Flight
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Ralph Gorby
S/V Silver Flight, 1991 C36 #1153
M35B (2000)
Member, SNSYC
Victoria, BC
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Is it necessary to drop the rudder to pull the shaft all the way out so the cutlass bearing can be replaced? What's involved in replacing the cb - how do you get it out of the strut? Would it be in chandleries, would I need Catalina Direct, or ??
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There has been lots of discussions on these questions; you should do an archive search. In sum, you do NOT have to drop the rudder to replace the CB. The Association has a very cool tool you can borrow for free that will do the job in 1/2 an hour (I did it last year). Again, search the archives for discussion of how to use the tool and members' feedback on using it; and go to the link on the side of the Association home page for "Association toolbox" for information on how to borrow the tool.
I got the replacement cutlass bearing from Catalina Direct, but I understand its a fairly standard size and thus you might find it more locally. has the cutlass bearing.
Matthew Chachère
s/v ¡Que Chévere!
(Formerly 1985 C36 MKI #466 tall rig fin keel M25)
2006 Catalina Morgan 440 #30.
Homeported in eastern Long Island, NY
[url]http://www.catalina36.org/forums/showthread.php?t=1625[/url]
I found this post
It appears that the tool can only be used ins USA due to high shipping cost.
Haro Bayandorian, 1999 C36 MKII, Sail La Vie #1787, M35B,
Coyote Point, San Mateo, CA.
Thanks for the info and the archival reference - most useful and I'm glad to hear that the shaft (apparently) will slip by the rudder. I assume the prop would have to come off?
I wonder if any of you can comment on why you replaced the cutlass bearing? What triggered your decision? How does a cutlass bearing behave when it needs attention and what symptoms can be observed?
Ralph Gorby
S/V Silver Flight, 1991 C36 #1153
M35B (2000)
Member, SNSYC
Victoria, BC
[QUOTE=Silver Flight;12792]Thanks for the info and the archival reference - most useful and I'm glad to hear that the shaft (apparently) will slip by the rudder. I assume the prop would have to come off?
I wonder if any of you can comment on why you replaced the cutlass bearing? What triggered your decision? How does a cutlass bearing behave when it needs attention and what symptoms can be observed?[/QUOTE]
1) the prop would need to come off. The Association's CB tool comes with a couple of prop pullers (for 2 and 3 blade configurations; I donated one of them, a simple pulley puller tool I bought at an auto parts store for not a lot of $$).
Alas, I hadn't realized you are in Canada, thus the trans-border shipping problem. (When you get a chance, you might want to fill out your signature in the User CP area at the top left of the page. It will help others to know about your boat, which model, where you're located, etc.)
2) The surveyor told us about the CB problem before we bought our boat. There was a fair amount of slop between the shaft and the CB, which is, from my reading of various authors, the usual way to diagnose it. You just grab the shaft while the boat is on the hard and see if it moves from side to side. Others report a rumbling noise as a symptom.
Matthew Chachère
s/v ¡Que Chévere!
(Formerly 1985 C36 MKI #466 tall rig fin keel M25)
2006 Catalina Morgan 440 #30.
Homeported in eastern Long Island, NY
Where are you in Canada? I have a tool that I built and am willing to lend if you cover shipping to and from.
Ross & Joanne
Wavelength
Saint John NB
RKYC
C36 #658 TR 1987
Two different divers told me that my bearing was failing. At haul out this year I replaced it using the C36 IA tool. Easy to do. Many mechanics now have bought this tool, so you may be able to find one locally who has it in stock. With the prop removed a mechanic could replace the bearing in a few minutes, so this should not be too expensive. After you have done it once, you also could do it in a few minutes.
To prep for a mechanic:
Purchase bearing
Get the boat on the hard
Remove the prop
Remove the set screws and have new ones for re-install
That is all it takes to make the job very quick
Oh ya, as it turned out, both divers were wrong, my bearing was fine. Since I had the tool, the new bearing, and the boat was on the hard, I went ahead and replaced it anyway
Neil Roach
"Crewless"
1992 36, Mark I
Hull # 1174
Seattle
Thanks again for the knowledgeable replies.
Given the absence of any indication of a CB issue, I will stand down on planning replacement and give it a careful inspection on haulout next month. There's enough on the plate this year already (in the last month I've rebuilt the head, removed and serviced the heat exchanger and replaced all cooling water hoses, changed all 3 engine filters and all fluids, replaced exhaust riser and related parts; shaft hose job still to come at haulout).
Ralph Gorby
S/V Silver Flight, 1991 C36 #1153
M35B (2000)
Member, SNSYC
Victoria, BC