36 MkII exhaust riser replacement

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36 MkII exhaust riser replacement

So after trolling the technical discussions for a while, I still have some questions regarding replacing my exhaust riser.  Would someone be able to help out here so I don't break things or encounter a big wet surprise?

I have a 2001 36mkii with a m35b engine (about 1850 hours on it)

1. Does the fresh water/antifreeze need to be drained from the system prior to removing the riser?  One post says definitely, one post (https://www.catalina36.org/forum/technical-discussion/m35b-exhaust-manif...) says not really.

1a.  If the coolant system does need to be drained, does anyone know of a guide for the m35b?

2. I've seen a lot of DIY riser builds, but most are for earlier engines.  It seems that the flange installation is a bit simpler on the m35b.  Any DIY builds for the m35b (vice 35a or 25xp)?

3. I see that Catalina Direct has a stainless riser available, but it isn't very cheap.  I also saw one post that said that they had an issue with CD's stainless riser (but didn't list any resolution).  Anyone else use CD's riser and can comment on it?

Yeah, I'm still pretty new to this so I'm having to learn as I go, so apologies for the semi-dumb questions.

Kevin
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2001 36 mkII - standard rig
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I have that engine M35B,  view this image. You are looking at the drain plug of antifreeze that is on the port side of the engine.
You do not need to drain the antifreeze to replace the exhaust riser.
https://www.catalina36.org/sites/default/files/Sail%20La%20Vie%20M-35B%2...
I have never replaced it and know nothing about it.
I will follow this thread to learn.
By the way, edit your post, change the 26 feet to 36 feet catalina.
Visit my website on my signature to see how I replaced the antifreeze.
Haro.

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Hi Kevin,

Looking to the same build period, I wouldn't be surprised if you are facing similar issues we had.
Removal of the riser is not a complicated job itself.

Also I looked at replacing the riser, but after taking out the damaged one and noticing what the issues caused, I decided to repair the original riser which is the cheapest and easiest solution.

In the attached file you see some pictures before and after the repairs.

Hope this information helps.
 

Durk Nijdam
S/V "SILER"
Catalina 36MKII - 2001 / hullnr. 2013
Stavoren - Holland

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You will need to drain the exhaust manifold. The section where you add coolant. The exhaust flange on the back along with the gasket may need removal so that you can attach a new riser. I believe you will find that the threaded pipe going into that flange will be a bit stubborn. Just my guess. On my Catalina 30 I replaced the riser and built my own from threaded pipe sections, but on my 36 I used the riser from CD. 

Gary Bain
S/V "Gone With The Wind"
Catalina 36', Hull #: 1056, Year: 1990, Engine: M-35
Standard Rig
Moored: Boothbay Harbor, Maine
Home: Auburn, Maine

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I have a 2000 Mkii 36 with a m35b engine also. I'm seeing a tiny bit of leaking and some rust where the riser connects with the hump hose. I'm thinking of just buying from CD because it's mostly likely to fit rather than try to work on something troubling. I'll likely also buy a new flange and hump hose even though the whole package seems, it will exceed $700. Any suggestions or advice on how to replace the riser will be welcome. It will be my first try also.
 

Tom Runiewicz
ObLaDi ObLaDa
Catalina 36 MkII, Wing Keel, Tall Rig
Hull #1998
North East, MD
 

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I replaced the failed riser on our C30 / M25 engine. I used black pipe. I can't recall the specific grade, but generic black pipe will not hold up well. It took many trips to the store to get all the angles and lengths correct. With the boat some distance away, this became a problem.  Factor all the store trips and labor into the project, and the price of an insulated riser purchased from CD would have likely been attractive vs. the approach I took.  

Paul & Wendy Keyser
"First Light"
Rye NH
2005 C36 MKII #2257
Wing, M35B

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Ive read the other posts I could find regarding replacing the exhaust riser. (Im assuming that's the same thing we all call the "water muffler" around my dock.&nbsp; And I can't find an answer to this question:&nbsp; I had a significant amount of salt water seeping onto the galley floor&nbsp; but only when the engine is running of my 94 C36 from the area adjacent to the fiberglass water muffler box so i'm sure that its the box is leaking.&nbsp; I removed the box and all the piping for both in and out ports, cleaned it and refilled it with fresh water to look for where the leaks were. but with just gravity&nbsp; &nbsp;pressure there were not obvious leaks. even though there were several hair line cracks , no water was comig out.&nbsp; I think what I will have to do next is rig up some sort of Pressureizing&nbsp;arrangement to force the leaks to show themselves. Im asling for any helpful suggestions please.<br /> Thanks, Capt. Sam

Capt. Sam Murphy
1994 Catalina 36, Hull 1327
Shoal draft, two cabin model.
Panama City, Florida

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I had to replace mine on our '98 a few years back due to a leak inside one of the bolt/screw holes in a corner. I was able to get  an identical replacement from Catalina in Largo, Florida. It sent me several drawings of different configurations and I found the one that matched, ordered it and got it in several weeks. Perfect fit and no leaks.

David S. Power
Two If By Sea #1687
Burnt Store Marina
Punta Gorda, FL

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