Galley Sink Problem

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Galley Sink Problem

Our galley sink drain broke, and now I'm trying to figure out what to do. I can't unthread them..... likely corroded. I would love to replace the entire sink but it looks like an issue with the current sink fitted between the coralon and plywood under neath. 

Not even sure where to get parts.

Any suggestiions would be great!

thanks.

Rich

 

Rich

Richard & Joan Bain
PAZZO Hull#1670
1997 Catalina 36 MK11
Bayfield, Ontario

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You may have to carefully hacksaw the old drain fitting out.  Most likely it can be replaced with parts from a plumbing supply store or a big-box home centre; with maybe some creative adoption pieces to get it eventually to a drain hose.

One useful way to get more access to the undersink area is to remove the 3-drawer unit that sits to the starboard side of the cabinet (facing the nav table).  There are maybe 8 screws that hold the entire assembly in, covered with teak bungs that can be carefully drilled out.

Matthew Chachère
s/v ¡Que Chévere!
(Formerly 1985 C36 MKI #466 tall rig fin keel M25)
2006 Catalina Morgan 440 #30.
Homeported in eastern Long Island, NY

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Thnks Mathew!
I emoved the front bank of drawers.
Lots of access now!
Rich
 

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PAZZO Hull#1670
1997 Catalina 36 MK11
Bayfield, Ontario

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Richard, I recently found my sink drain leaking due to broken plastic nut. You can get the original part for about $25.00. It is manufactured by Forespar Marelon. I will place more info with photo by Monday. There is hope.
Stay tuned
Haro.
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They are Forespar Marelon Forespar 907017 90° 1"I.D. Sink Waste Drain,  
Forespar 907017 1 Id Sink Waste 90 Deg Sw-4
Features: 90° configuration 1" I.D. tubing 2-7/8" flange 2" cut-out
Forespar SW-4 Sink Waste / Drain

Available from
   https://www.boatersland.com   866-828-1033    $ 24.99 + Freight   
   https://boatplicity.com              888-854-6152     $ 23.86 
   https://www.defender.com       800-628-8225   Item # : 501267    800-628-8225     $ 28.99 + Freight

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The drain has an "X" molded into it. Insert needle nose pliers with jaws bridging the X to stop the drain from spinning as you the turn the plastic nut on the underneath side. The drain is made from chrome plated plastic and will not bond itself to the stainless steel sink through corrosion. There is a sandwiched rubber gasket that creates a lot of friction and makes the nut difficult to turn.
Remove the drawer and frame to gain better access to the drain.
 

Paul & Wendy Keyser
"First Light"
Rye NH
2005 C36 MKII #2257
Wing, M35B

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AwesomeThanks for this!!
Rich
 

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PAZZO Hull#1670
1997 Catalina 36 MK11
Bayfield, Ontario

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www.bineapress.com

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We had a similar problem 4 years ago when the boat was new to us.  The original chrome plating on the plastic drain fittings had corroded through and was causing a leak. (See port side drain in attached photo.)

Everything came away fine from the stainless steel sink cleanly, but as I was in a hurry instead of ordering the proper marine fittlings online, I just wen to Lowe's/Home Depot and bought the fittings you'll see in the photos in the link below.  Cheap, easy and works well.  As these are drains there is no issue with pressure in the lines.  An anti-siphon might be a good idea, but none was originally installed and I believe this was the reason for the original very deep sinks?  Extreme heel to port might bring some water into the port side sink, but the sinks are fairly close to the centerline of the vessel. 

I did remove the screw bungs and took out the drawer assembly.  To ensure a seal without the proper sized washers I used Auto Goop around the sink on top, stick-to-itself plumber's tape on the threaded shaft of the new sink fitting and cut off the plastic disk to make a collar that would press up against the underside of the sink, then reused the plastic elbows and reassembled.  Remember that the down-pipe below is below the waterlilne!

Link to pics:  https://www.flickr.com/gp/47932873@N00/06u5z9

I did look into getting a new single shallow sink, but the only version I could find online (see old thread re: "new galley sink" in the forums) was too expensive at $350 or something like that.  The job looked a bit daunting to effect the swap and the Admiral said she was fine with the original twin bucket sinks.  I would likel to eventually change out the faucet for a one-handed version.
 

Kevin Lenard
"Firefly"
'91 C-36 Mk. "1.5" Tall Rig, Fin Keel, Hull #1120, Universal M-35 original (not "A" or "B")
CBYC, Scarborough, Lake Ontario, Canada

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Kevin, it is good to know that there are other solutions available.
The link you provided does not work for some reason. Do you have profile photos of completed drain installation?
Thanks.
Haro.

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Haro, apologies, I did not realize I had to paste that link in with the link tool.  It is fixed now, but here it is again:

https://www.flickr.com/gp/47932873@N00/06u5z9

Kevin Lenard
"Firefly"
'91 C-36 Mk. "1.5" Tall Rig, Fin Keel, Hull #1120, Universal M-35 original (not "A" or "B")
CBYC, Scarborough, Lake Ontario, Canada

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Thank you. I viewed the images. Very creative.

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Thanks Kevin!
I'll be doing this on the weekend!
Rich
 

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Richard & Joan Bain
PAZZO Hull#1670
1997 Catalina 36 MK11
Bayfield, Ontario

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I too want to swap out the dual knob faucet in my galley sink for a single handle with a sprayer head. A couple questions arise:

1. Is there something 'off the shelf' at Lowes or Home Cheapo that would be durable enough for the marine environment and withstand the freezing temps of layup in New England? Or better to spend the $ on the kit from Catalina or CD?

2. I assume removal of the stbd facing drawer assembly would also be key to accessing the base of the faucet? Any other tricks?

Thanks again

Mike

Jackfish Girl, 1999, C36 MKII, Tall Rig, Wing Keel, In-mast furling, Monument Beach, Bourne, MA

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Mike, as most faucets are made to withstand exposure to a certain amount of moisture and are all made of chrome-plated brass and plastic, I'm not sure that most marine faucets are much better.  Size might be an issue, but the big box hardward stores have a vast range of different sizes. 

Before removing bungs and unscrewing much I'd suggest trying to use a flashlight and mirror through the big drawer opening under the sink to see what might be in the way.  I recall there is a plywood partition running down from the countertop behind the starboard top drawer that might be in the way of accessing the back of the sink on the forward side of the galley.

Kevin Lenard
"Firefly"
'91 C-36 Mk. "1.5" Tall Rig, Fin Keel, Hull #1120, Universal M-35 original (not "A" or "B")
CBYC, Scarborough, Lake Ontario, Canada

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I realize this thread is a few years old.  Thanks for the pics Rich.  I have a 1992, MK 1.5 where the sink drain is approx 1/8" higher than the bottom of the sink so there is always standing water in both sinks.  If the sink wasn't sandwiched under the countertop I'd replace it because the sink is now pitted from the PO allowing water to sit for days/weeks.  If I do the drain replacement shown here will it lower the drain enough so water leaves the sink fully?  

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Randy, you can buy one Lowes version and if it did not fit, you can return it. I suspect someone installed your current drains incorrectly. I am pretty sure if you remove your drain you may be able to reinstall them properly so they are flush.
Haro

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