Tides strong track install

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Tides strong track install

I am installing Tides strong and need to lengthen the mast gate about 2.5 inches. Any advice on tools or method to remove that material. Dremel ain’t going to be up to it. 

Mark Holzmann
"Hawkwind"
Sail #1246
Rose City Yacht Club-Portland OR

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I’d probably grab my Fein multitool with an offset blade.

Les 

Les & Trish Troyer
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Everett, WA
1983 C-36 Hull #0094
C-36 MK 1 Technical Editor. 

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Thanks Les.  That's what we did!!
 

Mark Holzmann
"Hawkwind"
Sail #1246
Rose City Yacht Club-Portland OR

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I recently installed one on my 1990 C36 STD Rig and did not have to lengthen the gate. I took the boom off at the goose neck and it slid right up.
Tim

Tim Askew

 S/V Allure​
1990 Catalina 36 Hull # 1079
Std Rig, Wing Keel, M25XP
​3 Blade Auto Prop
​Elizabeth City, NC
 

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Mark.
I installed a Tides Sail Track on my 1990 Hull #1041 and did it very much the way Tim did it above. My total gate clerance is 3.5 inches and I did not find that any cutting or additional clearance was necessary. If you are not going to remove the boom, be sure the corners of the gate are smooth and well very lubricated. See; https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yta5TOVvDIA  for a few tips and hints on how to do this.
Bill

Bill Dolan 1990 Catalina C-36 MKI - Hull #1041  'Williwaw'
Std. Rig, Walk Through, Wing Keel
M35, Oberdorfer Conversion,
Home Waters; Charlotte  Harbor & The Gulf Islands of Florida
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I installed one on my 1990 and did not have to do any cutting

Bill Miller
S/V Lorraine
Pacific Northwest,Sound Sound
Grapeview,Wa
1990 Mk1

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Mark:  Like the rest above I installed mine without modifying the mast gate.  I did smooth the edges like mentioned above too and it all slid up very nicely.  Having some sun to warm the track up and an extra hand to help control the roll of track helped as well.  The one thing I did (after several years of fighting it) was to replace the toggle that was included with mine to hold the bottom in place with a drilled and tapped bolt into the mast track.  The problem was that the Tides track would slide down and rest on the sail tack.  I would have to push the track up and hold it while loading/unloading all the cars each spring and fall. So far so good with that modification.

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Harold Baker
S/V Lucky Duck
Duncan Bay Boat Club
Cheboygan Michigan - Lake Huron
1989 C-36 mkI TR/WK M25XP

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I installed mine a couple of weeks ago.  I could not get the track to fit without lengthening the gate.  Maybe I didn't try hard enough.  I do not have a grinder, so I used a metal cutting wheel in my skilsaw to make the initial cuts and then cleaned it up with a dremel.  It worked great and I had no real issues.  Even then, I still had to lube the track with soapy water to get it all the way up the mast.  

Don Lincoln
"Nancy Lynn"
1993 Catalina MK1.5, Hull 1238
LaSalle, MI (Lake Erie)
Universal M-35AC

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Thanks all for your comments!  In may case the mast track gate was just too short.  We lengthen it with a HD Dremel Ocillating tool and offset blade like Les Troyer needed to do.  Once that was complete and sanded sharp edges smooth, we coated the first 10" with Dawn dish detergent and it went up like butter.  I was surprised at the height of the collapsed sail.  The Tide system and slugs added a good 8-9" top to bottom.  My old sail cover barely fits, good thing I am planning a new Mack Pack!!
 

Mark Holzmann
"Hawkwind"
Sail #1246
Rose City Yacht Club-Portland OR

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