Smartpilot X-5 settings

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Smartpilot X-5 settings

Installing new X-5 autopilot on SCOTTFREE, remember mention of a special set of numerical settings that where worked out for the 36. Does anyone have them handy and are they applicable to the X-5? Sounds like they would be a frustration saver.
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Scottfree,
The settings are in the Owner's Encyclopedia. The nickname is the "Catalina Cocktail". Don't know if they apply to the X-5.

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If you have the X-5 your best bet is to add the rudder position sensor and then do a custom set up for your vessel, unless someone else has a X-5 with RPS and good settings for the C-36. The X-5 has been a poor performer without the RPS in my experience, on a number of various boats. Once the RPS is added performance gets mach better..

RM tried to delete the RPS with fancy programming and a standard rate gyro, due to RPS install complaints, but fell short IMHO. The RPS will be money well spent..

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[QUOTE=Maine Sail;6245]If you have the X-5 your best bet is to add the rudder position sensor and then do a custom set up for your vessel, unless someone else has a X-5 with RPS and good settings for the C-36. The X-5 has been a poor performer without the RPS in my experience, on a number of various boats. Once the RPS is added performance gets mach better..

RM tried to delete the RPS with fancy programming and a standard rate gyro, due to RPS install complaints, but fell short IMHO. The RPS will be money well spent..[/QUOTE]

Mainesail, or anybody else:
What I've read and been told is that the x-5 is just on the border of not being heavy duty enough for a c-36. Mainsail: Does what you write above imply that with the rudder position sensor it more or less resolves this issue, or is this something else entirely?

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[QUOTE=John Reimann;6265]Mainesail, or anybody else:
What I've read and been told is that the x-5 is just on the border of not being heavy duty enough for a c-36. Mainsail: Does what you write above imply that with the rudder position sensor it more or less resolves this issue, or is this something else entirely?[/QUOTE]

RPS has little to do with it being not robust enough. It is a wheel pilot and they are a little anemic. That being said my CS-36T is weighing in at over 18,500 pounds loaded for cruising and I am still waiting for my wheel drive to die so I can install the below deck unit.

It's more about how you trim the boat. Poor sail trim and helm balance will kill a WP faster than the sheer weigh of the boat. I have a friend with a C-30 who has killed three wheel drives in about 800nm of sailing. Mine has about 4500nm on it and my boat weighs nearly double. The differnece is I tune my boat to basically sail herself before pressing the "Auto" button..

I only bought a wheel drive because in the kit it is basically free, compared to the core pack, head and RPS bought separately, and was a quick install to get me going. I thought it would be dead the first season but she's still kicking...

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[QUOTE=Maine Sail;6266]RPS has little to do with it being not robust enough. It is a wheel pilot and they are a little anemic. That being said my CS-36T is weighing in at over 18,500 pounds loaded for cruising and I am still waiting for my wheel drive to die so I can install the below deck unit.

It's more about how you trim the boat. Poor sail trim and helm balance will kill a WP faster than the sheer weigh of the boat. I have a friend with a C-30 who has killed three wheel drives in about 800nm of sailing. Mine has about 4500nm on it and my boat weighs nearly double. The differnece is I tune my boat to basically sail herself before pressing the "Auto" button..

I only bought a wheel drive because in the kit it is basically free, compared to the core pack, head and RPS bought separately, and was a quick install to get me going. I thought it would be dead the first season but she's still kicking...[/QUOTE]

Thank you.

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Hello
You need to instal the rudder inadictor, which out it the X5 will not work correctly. There are photos of it being installed on the site I believe. I did it it is a little tough moving in the aft cabin by the pedastel enclosure but it goes fairly quickly.

BE SURE to mount the compass correctly that is also VERY important

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