Low Oil Pressure Panel

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Low Oil Pressure Panel

Sorry, but I'm not sure what the panel is called, but the panel on the helm with the low oil pressure light and all the guages (temp, fuel, etc) is tripping the fuse somehow. I've reset it and within about 30 seconds the fuse trips again and none of the guages work. The oil is good. Anyone have a suggestion of where to start before I give in and call the electrician? I don't know where the master fuse is for this panel which might be the issue.
Any help is appreciated.
Nancy

Nancy
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San Francisco
2002 MK II

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Nancy, first of all, at an early convenient point, please revise your signature to include the model, hull number, and even your boat name. See other posts regarding forum participation, as by offering adequate background info you will help us to help you.

Now I just found out from another of your postings that you have a 2002, is that right? And the description of the problem is that you have no gauges on the engine cluster that are functional. You say that it blows a "fuse". Please clarify...is it blowing a fuse, and if so where is that fuse? There really aren't many fuses on a C-36...mostly circuit breakers ("CBs") are used. Is it popping a circuit breaker, and if so where is the circuit breaker and what does its label read?

Where is your boat at present? In a slip, and if so where? Are you stopped during a passage, or have you already arrived? If you're not at your home base, an electrician is probably your best bet, as he/she can help you get underway quickly. The electrical problem may not even be in the engine cluster, but at a remote location, and only the symptoms are appearing at the engine cluster. Do you have your C-36 Owners Manual onboard? There are schematics of your electrical system in the manual.

My manual is on the boat, but I am going to the boat tomorrow. If you provide the info we need, we may be able to help you troubleshoot.

Larry Brandt
S/V High Flight #2109
Pacific Northwest, PDX-based
2002 C-36 mkII SR/FK M35B
 

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Nancy and other new participants, please see the following thread regarding guidance as to what info to provide and forum courtesy.

[URL="http://www.c36ia.com/forums/showthread.php?t=147"]http://www.c36ia.com/forums/showthread.php?t=147[/URL]

We're only trying to help. Thanks.

Larry Brandt
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[QUOTE=lcbrandt;1305]Nancy, first of all, at an early convenient point, please revise your signature to include the model, hull number, and even your boat name. See other posts regarding forum participation, as by offering adequate background info you will help us to help you.

Now I just found out from another of your postings that you have a 2002, is that right? And the description of the problem is that you have no gauges on the engine cluster that are functional. You say that it blows a "fuse". Please clarify...is it blowing a fuse, and if so where is that fuse? There really aren't many fuses on a C-36...mostly circuit breakers ("CBs") are used. Is it popping a circuit breaker, and if so where is the circuit breaker and what does its label read?

Where is your boat at present? In a slip, and if so where? Are you stopped during a passage, or have you already arrived? If you're not at your home base, an electrician is probably your best bet, as he/she can help you get underway quickly. The electrical problem may not even be in the engine cluster, but at a remote location, and only the symptoms are appearing at the engine cluster. Do you have your C-36 Owners Manual onboard? There are schematics of your electrical system in the manual.

My manual is on the boat, but I am going to the boat tomorrow. If you provide the info we need, we may be able to help you troubleshoot.[/QUOTE]
Thanks Larry. I'll change my signature as well.

The boat is in it's slip in San Francisco. The fuse I was referring to is probably a circuit breaker and is on the bottom of the panel (says 10amp). The Catalina book keeps referring to a 20amp fuse but I can't find where that would be. Boat was fine last week when I ran it, oil is good etc. So, not sure what is causing this. Any suggestions please let me know. I'll go through the book again today and see if it can provide any more insight.

Nancy
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San Francisco
2002 MK II

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Nancy, please confirm that your boat is a 2002, and let us know the hull number.

Assuming a 2002, I am attaching a photo of my (2002) electrical panel. Have a look at it and advise which circuit breaker is "popping". [FYI...a circuit breaker serves the function of a switch AND a fuse, with the advantage that it can be reset after an electrical current overload. The purpose - the mission - of a circuit breaker is to prevent *loss of the vessel* if there is a short circuit in the wiring or in any equipment served by the wiring. A common misconception is that fuses and cbs are there to protect the equipment item connected to them - NOT! They are there to *protect the boat* - a far more noble purpose.]

I brought my manual home today, but still need a little more info to be able to assist. [And even then, I might not be able to help.] It might be helpful to have the answers to the following questons:

1) the label of the CB that is popping;
2) confirm that the engine starts just fine and runs fine;
3) on the bottom of the engine cluster is the On/Off switch for the blowers...does that function properly, ie blowers turn on when selected on and again off when selected off;
4) check the voltmeter on the electrical panel and tell us what the voltage is Before you start the engine, and again After you start the engine (make sure your charger is off when checking this question)...should show about 15 to 16 volts when the engine runs and when engine is shut down should show about 12 to 13 volts;
5) immediately before starting the engine, when you turn the key switch on the side of the engine instrument pod to the 1:00 o'clock position (not the 3:00 position which is the cylinder preheat), do you hear the high-pitched warning tone "peeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeep" sound?

Larry Brandt
S/V High Flight #2109
Pacific Northwest, PDX-based
2002 C-36 mkII SR/FK M35B
 

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I recall a bit of info included in the Seaward Products info on the high efficiancy panel upgrade. It stated that the circuit breaker protects the gauges. It will trip if there is a problem with the blower motor circuit.
When tripped the engine will start and run normaly, the low oil pressure and over temp alarm and light will work normally but the gauges will be inop.

I would first try and disconect the blower and see if the breaker resets.
If it does you have a short in the blower circuit, pinched wire, shorted motor or something simple like something falling into the fan of the blower causing it to lock up and pop the breaker.

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I found the problem, corresion on the inside of the panel which some of the wiring needing to be cleaned and then reattached. Once that was done, it worked just fine again. I got a good lesson from one of my boat neighbors in reading some of the wiring schematics etc.
Thanks to all of you for your help.

I did try to fix my signature so hopefully that is coming across correctly now!

Nancy
Cat's Meow #2046
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2002 MK II

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Brava! Brava! Nice work.

Larry Brandt
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Pacific Northwest, PDX-based
2002 C-36 mkII SR/FK M35B
 

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