Hi, everyone.
As per my other thread on trailering, I'm thinking of buying a custom trailer for my C36 Mk1. I've looked over the C36 specs here at C36IA, but I don't see the height breakdown. Basically, I need to know that the boat sitting on the trailer with the mast down on a frame of some sort, will fit under most highway bridges and power lines.
Anyone have experience with this? Do you know what is the boat height from keel bottom to cabin top?
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Ben Ethridge
Miami, FL
1984 MK1 Hull# 263
Thirteen feet six inches for the standard keel per the owners manual.
Cepheus dream
C36 MK I # 825
MK I Tech Editor No Mas
Ben, this is one of the most intriguing postings that I have read on this Forum in the past year. But you have to play fair and give us the rest of the story. Can you share your plans?
Maybe when you're finished with it, you could donate it to Tom's Tool Box, then we could all "borrow it" when we wanted to move our boat. :)
Larry Brandt
S/V High Flight #2109
Pacific Northwest, PDX-based
2002 C-36 mkII SR/FK M35B
Sure: I love the boat and I plan to live on it for the rest of my life (on the water, of course :)). The boat will always need work from time to time. Right now, it needs a few months of work to get it ocean-ready, but it's prohibitively expensive storing it at the marinas and boat yards. It's also expensive (but not prohibitively) to have a boat transport company haul it to my current house where I can work on it easily.
When I compare the cost of the trailer (about $10K) to the cost of a few $3K moves and marina yard fees, and then amortize the cost of the trailer over many years, the trailer investment looks like a good one, especially since, if I take care of it, I can always sell it and get much of my money back...or donate it to the Toolbox, as you say :)
Ben Ethridge
Miami, FL
1984 MK1 Hull# 263
Sounds like a good plan Ben although it cost me $300 to hire a crane company to pull the stick and another $300 to put it back on the boat.
My homeowners association would have a duck fit if I tried to work on it here at the house. Back when I had a pontoon boat I parked it out front one night as we were heading out to the lake early the next morning. I had a knock on the door, the HOA had called the police. The cop was cool about it and said as long as it wasn't there for more than 24 hours straight nothing could be done but he had a complaint and had to follow up.
Bill
s/v Lucky
1984 MK I Hull #266
San Antonio, Texas
Bill,
I am very happy I do not live under the rule of a Home Owners Association. Politicians are horible, Jr. Busybody Politicians are worse.
Cepheus dream
C36 MK I # 825
MK I Tech Editor No Mas
Yep. And this is an older neighborhood with people far more senior than I. (I am late 40s) They are bored with nothing to do. The HOA newsletter has the code compliance number for the city posted on the front page! :mad:
Bill
s/v Lucky
1984 MK I Hull #266
San Antonio, Texas
My homeowners have had duck fits!
Our Homeowner restrictions came up for renewal after 20 years and the new verbiage was very loose for future actions.
Just didn't sign it; "friends" for 20 years got a bit testy, but c'est la vie!
So no matter what weird and crazy rules the Sticky Beaks come up with, It's not my worry; I'm free of the crazies.
Biggest problem since, is that I can no longer win the "Yard of the Month" as I am not a member, although nominated :rolleyes:
Fair Winds,
Glenn "Chooch" Jewell
Nautae Luna 1232 (RIP Tara 389 Hurricane Sally 2020)
GO NAVY - BEAT ARMY!
[QUOTE=Steve Frost;3753]Thirteen feet six inches for the standard keel per the owners manual.[/QUOTE]
A trailer manufacturer told me that the height is only 10'6" if I remove the bowsprit and all stanchions. Is that true?
Steve, can you point me to the owner's manual where it states that? I've looked here at c36ia and googled, but I can't find it yet.
Ben Ethridge
Miami, FL
1984 MK1 Hull# 263
Ben,
If you were only shipping the bare hull, they might be right. Removing the pullpit, pushpit, and stanchions will reduce the height by maybe 30" or so, but you still have the height of the cabin.
Tom Sokoloski
C36/375IA Past Commodore
Noank, CT
Hi, Tom. You sure about that? Eyeballing at the cabin level from the dock, it sure doesn't look like 30" from the top of the bow pulpit and pushpit to the top of the cabin. The top of the dorade inlets look to be almost at the height of the stanchions.
You didn't mean removing the cabin, right?
Ben Ethridge
Miami, FL
1984 MK1 Hull# 263
hello
I've transported quite a few Catalinas on my tri-axle keelboat trailer.
Without going in to comparatives vis a vis dead weight vs published gross weight, height, beam, etc.... for C27's, C30's and the C36... this I will tell you...
C36 hull #454 trailered from Mobile, Alabama to Vancouver, British Columbia without a single clearance issue... trailer keel support is 18" off the ground. With the boat settled in level and the mast lashed down across the pulpit / pushpit (and supported at the mast step), my overall height was 13'11".
Statutory height clearance in most states is 14'
I did detour around a handful of low clearance locations which are clearly catalogued in in Rand McNally's Motor Carriers' Road Atlas. Although overwidth, I never was pulled over by state troopers - but garnered quite a few very studious looks as they pulled up alongside ("wide load" / "oversized load" banners were affixed to the stern of the boat). The overwidth area of the load was some 11' in the air...!
This boat has been clocked at over 75mph, and attained an altitude of 8300 feet above sea level... not to mention, survived Hurricane Katrina quite well, thank you.
fair winds...
norm
C42 #437
Katrina Mist
Norm, was C36/454 a fin keel or a shoal keel?
And thanks for contributing to our Forum.
Larry Brandt
S/V High Flight #2109
Pacific Northwest, PDX-based
2002 C-36 mkII SR/FK M35B
I trucked my boat from Portland Or. to Blaine Wa. when I bought it (mk 1). Don't recall the exact numbers but we did it with the mast sitting more or less on top of the bow and stern pulpits. the spreaders were off. The tallest point would have been the pedestal guard, followed by the steering wheel, both of which I removed. The trucker was concered about keeping the total beam below 12' (11', 11") and I think he wanted the boat itself to be no more than 14' tall but don't hold me to that. He said he went straight up the I-5 with no detours.
Jason V
Vancouver, BC, Canada
Oh, and Norm above knows what he is talking about. He has a very nice towing rig, a Cat 42 in the water, a pretty nice 36 in his back yard, and god knows what else.
Jason V
Vancouver, BC, Canada
[QUOTE=benethridge;3751]Anyone have experience with this? Do you know what is the boat height from keel bottom to cabin top?[/QUOTE]
High school math actually can be put to good use:
Go find and printout a brochure on the site. You know the length of the boat. Use a scale or a simple piece of paper and measure off a scaled feet lengthwise. The use that scale and find out what the distance is from keel to pulpit top. Done.
Stu Jackson, C34IA Secretary, C34 #224, 1986, SR/FK, M25 engine, Rocna 10 (22#)
Paul & Ann -
"Freestyle" -
1985 C36 #454 -
North Puget Sound, WA
So to warm up this old thread... I am trying to find out if I can get our MKi shoal draft trailer'd to our backyard. The local hauler says the height from keel to cabin top (or railing) must be under 12' - apparently the power lines are at 14' and their trailer adds 2'...
High school math applied to the numbers from the owners manual tells me, that the height of our MKI from the bottom of the wing keel to the top of the cabin / pulpit is 12' 2". But that is based on the regular draft number on the diagram in the manual, that also has a little support under the keel...
So does anyone know the exact number for the trailering height of a MKI shoal draft?
Thanks,
Daniel
1988 Catalina 36 MK I - Swept Away
Rewarming my old comment: in the old place this worked as the height is indeed under 12'. Now I moved to Cape Cod and here the power lines are only 13 feet it appears... So it looks like I am out of luck and it is indeed 11' 11" as the trailering height for the Catalina 36 MKI shallow draft?
Regards, Daniel
1988 Catalina 36 MK I - Swept Away
So to close on this if anyone else has the issue: I measured while on the dry... The height from the bottom of the shallow-draft wing keel to the top of the pullpit for my 1988 MK1 is 128 inches.
1988 Catalina 36 MK I - Swept Away
The Catalina 36 MkI Owner's Manual (p56 on the scan I have) shows the lifting recommendations. That shows the height from ground to top of the pulpit as 13'-6".
Steve Orosz
s/v RIngle
1985 Catalina 36 Mk I #358
San Francisco Bay
I was able to extract page 74 of the owners manual listing the dimensions of the C36 and its lifting points.
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