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Sink drain lines

Hi all. We are new to sailing and recently purchased a 2001 C36 mkII.  As I've been going through and making repairs, I want to replace the sink drain hose and the drain line from the fridge.  I had some issues w water coming back into the fridge and read where I can raise the T fitting higher which should help that.  I was thinking the Raritan SFH1 or Trident 101 Sani Shield would be good choices for the sink drain.  Any input from you guys?  Thank you. 

"Nauti Seahorse"
2001 C36 MK ii. #2011

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The sink drain line is OK as is
close the through-hull when sailing to prevent water entering the fridge.

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So i had this problem too.  But what i noticed was that if you operate the foot-pump an additional half dozen times after emptying the refer you'll break the siphon.  That fixed it for me.

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Does the refrigerator really need to drain into the sink drain line?  There isn't that much moisture coming from there.  Why can't the fridge just drain into the bilge?  My AC unit does that with condensation, and it puts out enough moisture in florida that I have considered turning it into a watermaker!  When I am gone from the boat my dehumidifier also drains into the bilge, then when it gets enough water the bilge pump empties it.  Any reason why the fridge can't drain there too?

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Thanks for the replies.  I definitely will be replacing the lines.  They have a smell and a substance on them that I've tried cleaning but doesn't go away.  
I've seen where some people do change the fridge to drain into the bilge and that seems OK to me but part of me wanted to keep it like it came from the factory.  I did find out the extra pumps w the foot pedal has stopped the water inflow to the fridge.  
I have a small dehumidifier on the counter draining into the sink so I leave the thru hull open. 

If you allow the fridge to drain into the bilge, bid you bypass the foot pump?

Thanks again.

"Nauti Seahorse"
2001 C36 MK ii. #2011

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The PO took out the foot pump.  Not sure why there seem to be such an emphasis on water in the fridge.  Mine gets almost no water in it.  I think it would be fine without a drain.  Now when I used it as an ice chest before I replaced the compressor system, a drain was very useful.  

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I wouldn't treat the original Catalina plumbing and other particulars as 'the word from on high'.  Many of their ideas/experiments turned out to be ineffective (e.g. roll-up door over the 45 degree cabinet on the starboard side from the head door, plywood base under the mast step, etc.).  The fridge pump-out/drain was clearly something that someone in the team had a bee in their bonnet about.  Unless you used ice blocks while on the hook (quite a strong possibility, but then why have a 12 volt fridge unit?), the pump and drain were unnecessary (i suspect this was the reason, a carry-over from the old salts who insisted that they'd always done this back in the day).  

I removed the non-functional foot pump and covered the hole with a white plastic door handle bumper guard from the hardware store.  The T-fitting also came out from the drain line and I ran a longer hose into the bilge.  It onyl gets used when we clean the fridge or spill something in there.  I added another hose from a catch basin under the stuffing box, another from a YETI style drinks cooler for ice under the former navigation table and a drainage hose from the new multi-function A/C/heater/dehumidifier I added beside the drinks cooler (I took out the useless navigator station swivel chair).  To be doubly sure about clearing the bilge, I added a low-profile second bilge pump into the bilge with its own dedicated hose and thru-hull on the transom (works in conjunction with the main bilge pump).  

Kevin Lenard
"Firefly"
'91 C-36 Mk. "1.5" Tall Rig, Fin Keel, Hull #1120, Universal M-35 original (not "A" or "B")
CBYC, Scarborough, Lake Ontario, Canada

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That all sounds nice.  Thanks for the input.  Ive decided to run the fridge drain into the bilge and once I get the measurements I'll be ordering the proper hose.  Thank you all. 

"Nauti Seahorse"
2001 C36 MK ii. #2011

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I added a ball valve to the refrigerator drain line. When in the closed position, we can sail with the sink drain open so the grand kids (non stop eating machines) can still use the galley sink to wash their sticky fingers

Paul & Wendy Keyser
"First Light"
Rye NH
2005 C36 MKII #2257
Wing, M35B

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That's a good idea.  I purchased some rubber stoppers from Amazon to plug the drain in the fridge as a start. Where did you locate the ball valve?  

"Nauti Seahorse"
2001 C36 MK ii. #2011

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I think we purchased the ball valve from West Marine. It had  nipples at each end and I just cut the drain line and inserted the valve with hose clamps. You could probably use one from Home Depot. Technically it should be bronze, not brass, but the sink drain valve at the hull is closed while the boat is at the mooring, so if the ball valve failed, no water would ever enter the boat. Additionally, we use ice blocks in the refrigerator for our short cruises so the valve gets a fresh water flush. Where ever we purchased it, its been 12 years and sill looks like new.

Paul & Wendy Keyser
"First Light"
Rye NH
2005 C36 MKII #2257
Wing, M35B

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I have a 1994 MK1 and there's a check valve in the drain line from the fridge and it has worked perfectly for me all these years. I have had to replace it twice. Not bad for 32 years. 

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Update:  I removed the old drain lines and foot pump. Now I have a passive drain lines from the fridge to the bilge (6' hose) and a new line from the sink to the ball valve. I also have a small rubber stopper for the fridge drain if needed as an icebox/cooler.  Thanks for the suggestions!

"Nauti Seahorse"
2001 C36 MK ii. #2011

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We sealed the fridge drain hole with a rubber plug primarily to eliminate a drain of the cold air in the box. We never had a problem with water backing up into the box and our AC tech recommended we seal off that drain hole.

David S. Power
Two If By Sea #1687
Burnt Store Marina
Punta Gorda, FL

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