Relocate gauges over companionway

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Relocate gauges over companionway

Thinking of relocating gauges over the companionway. Have seen this on several larger sailboats. Possibly running the wires inside 1 inch tubing to rail mounted instrument pods. Has anyone done this ?

Bill

Bill Deliman

Vivacious 2
1989 Catalina 36, Tall Rig, Wing Keel, m25xp
Atlantic Highlands, N.J.

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You might get a better response if you let us know what gauges and how you use your boat (racing,cruising, combo...). On the surface it sounds like a raceing question. If it's a wiring question then what kind of bridge mounting are you thinking of?

 

Les & Trish Troyer
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Everett, WA
1983 C-36 Hull #0094
C-36 MK 1 Technical Editor. 

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I'm just looking to get some new gauges, depth, speed, wind, and like the idea of having them in my field of view, rather than having them blocked by passengers sitting on the starboard seats. Something like Raymarine I50 and I60, or similar. I can get a Navpod and mount it on a rail over the companionway. Just wanted to see if anyone has done this already and can give some advice.

Bill Deliman

Vivacious 2
1989 Catalina 36, Tall Rig, Wing Keel, m25xp
Atlantic Highlands, N.J.

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Thanks for the clarification I have a pair of i70's at the helm. Lots more functionality than i50& i60's. 

Maretron DSM450 might be a bit cheaper if you have your data on NMEA 2000 and a way to update the firmware

les

Les & Trish Troyer
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1983 C-36 Hull #0094
C-36 MK 1 Technical Editor. 

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Of course, another consideration (particularly for those of us who no longer possess the eagle eyes of our youth) is whether you'll be able to easily read them from the helm when they are that far away, especially in the dark or bad weather.  
Thus, a larger Navpod at the helm to hold them is an alternative to consider.  You can replace (as we did) the stock 1" pedestal guard with a 1-1/4" guard (to hold more cable) that goes higher and has room to mount more stuff.   Plus the wiring runs would probably be neater than your proposed location.

 

Matthew Chachère
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(Formerly 1985 C36 MKI #466 tall rig fin keel M25)
2006 Catalina Morgan 440 #30.
Homeported in eastern Long Island, NY

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Another advantage to having the guages at the helm is they will be easier to access if you want to calibrate them. 

Paul & Wendy Keyser
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Rye NH
2005 C36 MKII #2257
Wing, M35B

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Without intending any offense, Bill -- times have changed.  I looked at one late 80's C36 that had the nav gauges over the companionway, but #1 - they looked intrusive and the mounting feet interfered with the control lines running under the traveler/dodger and, #2 - with my aging eyesight I'd have needed to use the binoculars to read them (plus the wiring required covering on the ceiling inside).

Having the gauges mounted 6 to 10 feet away from the steering position was a holdover from small, tiller-steered sailboats that had no other place to put them.  As soon as you have passengers they block the gauges.  The solution in the late 80's was to mount them over the companionway, but as boat got larger and larger (our club's docks/fingers were built in 1978 mostly to accommodate craft no longer than 26 feet as larger boats were rare back then - now the little boats are rare!), just as in cars and aircraft, the gauges moved back to the steering position where the helmsman could see and control everything within arms' length and eyesight.  Navpods became the go-to solution.

Where are we now?  Now all the gauges are on a single large tablet touchscreen mounted in a waterproof housing where the Navpod used to be and they are gradually all becoming wireless via Bluetooth or WiFi.  The gauges can be shuffled around on the touchscreen and enlarged or shrunken as desired.  Voice command control is a few years away.

Where are we going next?  Heads up display in a pair of Bluetooth-enabled glasses.  No need to look down, all the gauges are in line of sight wherever the helmsman (helmsperson) is looking and either voice commands or gestures picked up by forward-looking micro video cameras will squeeze the size of the gauges up or down or shuffle their placement around within your field of view.  Eventually every crew member will be able to wear a pair of glasses and see what the helmsperson is seeing, including an overhead view of where their boat is in relation to all other boats in the race and the marks/finish line, the data being furnished by GPS signals from every boat and a drone being flown from the Committee Boat.   

So, Bill, you can go to the trouble and expense of figuring out a mounting solution and re-wiring, but I suspect that, taking all that hassle into account, the Navpod, even with the set of wires required to be fed under the belly of the beast and up through the pedestal, is a better and far more 'elegant' solution, or, if you are willing to spring for the ultimate futuristic solution, an interactive screen, perhaps even with all Bluetooth-enabled wireless instruments ($$$).  The heads-up glasses are still 'in the pipeline', but I suspect we'll see them in another few years.

The older solution will likely be much cheaper, especially if you can find a second-hand or off the shelf solution, but I added an open-jawed stainless steel "T" bracket on my pedestal with a short piece of 1" pipe, a 90 degree and another piece of 1" pipe with a rubber bicycle handlebar holder for my smartphone and, using Navionics and an old Garmin GMI 10 receiver showing wind and depth (plus a USB charging port I installed at the pedestal), I'm good to go. 
 

Kevin Lenard
"Firefly"
'91 C-36 Mk. "1.5" Tall Rig, Fin Keel, Hull #1120, Universal M-35 original (not "A" or "B")
CBYC, Scarborough, Lake Ontario, Canada

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