Nice Alternator Upgrade to 140A

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Nice Alternator Upgrade to 140A

I was usually stopping at marinas while coastal cruising because it would take 2.5 to 3 hours of 1800 RPM to get the batteries up.  Conventional wisdom has the limit at 70A upgrade due to limitations of the power that can be transmitted via the V-belt.  Going 50A OEM to 70A seems hardly worth the effort.  Then I found a kit that also switched all the pulleys and belt to multi-v serpentine style belt, allowing lots more power to be transmitted.

The new alternator is 140A rated and is controlled by a Balmar 614.  At a fast idle when the battery is 50% down I get 100A delivered.  Now I anchor out whenever I have the opportunity, no need to recharge on AC at a dock.  This summer I never had to sit and listen to the engine at anchor.  With the much higher charge rate I find that the 30 minutes poking about harbor under power while looking for a good anchor spot is enough to get the battery up to 98%.  By the time I back down on the anchor the battery is good.
 
Other things of note: 

  • An AGM or Optima style battery is needed for this sort of charge acceptance rate.  Regular batteries can overheat at high charge rates.
  • It's a good time to add terminal fuses and a direct wire from alternator to batteries.  Wiring suggestions are found on this site and over on the C34 site.
  • MaineSail (aka: Compass Marine)  is a most excellent advisor on this sort of thing.You can hit his web site or look up his messages, He often hangs out at the C34 forums.
  • I've found that this alternator upgrade has eliminated any thoughts I was having about getting a Honda generator.  100A at 12V is 1200 watts.  That's more than 1.5 hp of electrical power.  I cannot run air conditioning on it, but I can get very liberal on all other uses of electrical power.
  • Anybody want my old 50A OEM alternator?

Greg Jackson
SV Jacqui Marie
2004 C36, MKII
tall rig, wing keel,

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Greg, where did you get the revised belt and pulleys?

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Enrique
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1998 36 MK2 Hull #1673
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M35BC engine
Old Saybrook, CT Summer
South Glastonbury, CT Winter
 

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I got the kit from Electromaax but it included a Balmar regulator.  Between incomplete documentation and variations in color codes and descriptions between Catalina, Universal, Balmar, and Electromaax it got a little confusing.  More experienced people would probably have known that tach signal, stator output, tach pulse, and tachometer pickup were all colloquial names for the same thing and the wire could come in many colors.  The wire harness appears to have additional wires allowing it to be used in different configurations, but the result is that I ended up with several unexplained wires that were not terminated. Seemed to work but I get nervous when there are unattached and unexplained wires in the maze of wiring.

Balmar makes complete kits also.  Having one less vendor in the mix might have made it easier.

 

Greg Jackson
SV Jacqui Marie
2004 C36, MKII
tall rig, wing keel,

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Greg, would you mind posting some pics of your install?  This sounds like a very good upgrade.

Gary Johnson
1999 Cat 36 mkii, M35C
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Homeport: Long Beach, California

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Someplace out on the net there has to be a place where one can buy separate pulleys. It's nice to go that way but just to much money for my pocket. For $219 you can get the 3 pulleys for a small block Chevy. I will keep searching and hopefully we can the the price down.

Randy Sherwood
Mutualfun 1990 # 1057
T/R W/K M35a
Home. Charlotte, Mi.
Boat. St Augustine,Fl.

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Pictures are attached. I mounted the regulator in the aft cabin, behind the vent/access panel. This keeps it outside the engine heat, easy to read when I want to take a look at status, but out of sight normally. The close up image of the regulator shows current alternator temperature. It can read temperature of two battery banks and the alternator.

Greg Jackson
SV Jacqui Marie
2004 C36, MKII
tall rig, wing keel,

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