I have a Jabsco twist lock toilet that is getting the better of me. I have two problems.
#1 problem: Water just drains out of bowl within a few seconds.With selector in wet or dry. Is this a Joker valve problem? I like to add a little more water when flushing soilds.
#2 problem: I see water going back and forth though the hose to the back of the bowl while pumping in "Dry". If I pinch off this hose the pumping seems to clear the bowl better. I had a "solid" blockage, the pump just went up and down and wouldn't drain the bowl. I pinched off the hose going to the back of the bowl and the pump was hard at first but cleared the bowl. Something is bypassing, check valve not holding?
I'm going to put a major rebuild or just replace the pumping unit.
I really want to understand what is failed, not just to change parts.
I did put a major kit in about 6 months ago. I think it was working well. It is possible that I installed something incorrectly.
Any ideas?
Chuck Lennox
97 MKii Ventura Ca
Island Girl Hull #1611
Chuck,
I can't help you with the Jabsco problem, but I can suggest a replacement. Raritan PHII. Reasonably priced, very well built, dependable, and highly rated by Practical Sailor. I had one in my C36 for 10 years without a problem, and I've had two in my C400 for six years without a problem. Requires a minor rebuild once every 5 years or so, but other than that they are bullet-proof. Just a thought.
Tom Sokoloski
C36/375IA Past Commodore
Noank, CT
Hi Tom
That does look like a good one.
How was the install on on your C-36? Did you have to go with a Compact?
I think I'm going to try one more time to get the Jabsco working. I have got parts on order for fix.
Chuck Lennox
97 MKii Ventura Ca
Island Girl Hull #1611
Chuck. I installed it on hull #1673 no problems. Tom's right. Big difference from Josco
Enrique
Talisman
1998 36 MK2 Hull #1673
Tall Rig Wing Keel
M35BC engine
Old Saybrook, CT Summer
South Glastonbury, CT Winter
I have the Jabsco with the " locking" pump handle. I find that if its not in the locked position the water will slowly drain from the bowl. Trying to be delicate, sitting will tend to twist the handle to the unlocked position. If this works for you it saves a nasty joker valve replacement. Good luck!
Wally
Wally
"Onanne"
2000 MKII, deep keel, tall rig
Lake Champlain
Hey Chuck. The Jabsco is a good toilet. I would not suspect the joker valve. Very good chance that something is lodged into the base valve or it has become swollen (household cleaners and deodorizers can do this) preventing it from seating. Here's how to check it: http://www.youtube.com/embed/niZ2rKsf53M?autoplay=1&TB_iframe=true&width=560&height=315
Nick Caballero
Retired C36/375IA Mk II Technical Editor
Chuck,
The install was fairly straightforward. Took out the old, filled the holes with thickened epoxy, marked holes for new, drilled (into plywood under the fiberglass), installed using SS lag bolts with caulking in holes. From memory, I think I went with the household size, and it fit nicely. Only mod I did was to cut 2-3" off the handle, as I thought it stuck out too far. Here's a pic installed on Julandra (MkI #659).
Tom Sokoloski
C36/375IA Past Commodore
Noank, CT
Well, boy I've learned a lot about Jabsco toilets.
The YouTubes put out by Jabsco are great!
I haven't been locking the "locking handle. Duh
I have used household chemicals.Bleach, and soaps. A bad thing. Duh
I going to give it another try with new knowledge and parts.
Thanks for the pointers.
Chuck Lennox
97 MKii Ventura Ca
Island Girl Hull #1611
One of the the things I did to stop water from seeping out of the bowl was to install a p trap. Been working great now for 5 years.
Randy Sherwood
Mutualfun 1990 # 1057
T/R W/K M35a
Home. Charlotte, Mi.
Boat. St Augustine,Fl.
Chuck Lennox
97 MKii Ventura Ca
Island Girl Hull #1611
David S. Power
Two If By Sea #1687
Burnt Store Marina
Punta Gorda, FL
Chuck, I have what may be a better idea. I suggest not using outside sea water to flush; instead use fresh water directed from the hand wand of the sink.
By using a directed water stream it will be more effective in clearing the bowl, and by 'more effective' I mean that overall less water will be used and thus holding tank capacity will be conserved.
Larry Brandt
S/V High Flight #2109
Pacific Northwest, PDX-based
2002 C-36 mkII SR/FK M35B
All good ideas.
I have done the "Y valve mod under the sink.I just fill the sink and pump the toilet with fresh water. Sometimes running the water pump so much uses too much battery power. On the longer trips where water might be harder to find I've been using sea water.
That mod is one of the best ever! I never get the "smell" because I flush the lines and toilet with fresh water when we leave the boat.
Question: I decided to use Pump lube each month. I purchased some West Marine for $15 bucks. 12oz.
Looks like Mineral to me?
Any cheaper thoughts?
Chuck Lennox
97 MKii Ventura Ca
Island Girl Hull #1611
Done a similar mod. One seacock serves the shower drain and the other seacock serves the sink drain + toilet intake. Open the seacock for salt water service. When exiting the boat, close the seacock and fill the sink with freshwater and a few drops of bleach. Flush the toilet, leaving a few inches of water in the bowl. Every few months add a teaspoons of mineral oil to the sink with the seaccock closed, add water, flush through the toilet. You and your toilet will become the best of friends. Promise.
Nick Caballero
Retired C36/375IA Mk II Technical Editor