Interior Wood Type MK1

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Interior Wood Type MK1

All,
  My interior needs work according to the wife/admiral.  I talked her out of painting it white and she lost interest in the boat. I thought it was a pretty bad idea to whitewash the interior even if it looked better.  Just thought it would destroy resale completely.  
From what I have read my boat should have been only oiled, it is a 1984 hull 360 if I recall. Somebody varnished it and it is old and mismatched shades and defects of unknown causes.  It looks like someone started revarnishing and didn't finish etc..
Question is if I sand it all off and oil it or varnish it can I expect it to match?  What kind of wood is it?  Is it all teak and teak veneer or is some mahogony?
Why is the MK2 lighter?  I read some post it said if you want lighter wood should have bought a mk2.  
Which surfaces are veneer? 
Any tips or thoughts?  

Catalina 36 MK1
1984 Hull #306

 

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Mike;
I'll take a shot at answering your questions;
First; The interior of your Mk I is all solid teak with the exceptions of veneer on the plywood bulk heads and floors. The aft cabin uses veneer bulkheads as well on the walls. I do not beleive that mahogany is used at any point, although, teak will naturally turn as dark as mahogany over time. 
  Given your current situation, I would try to remove the exsisting varnished areas and start over using a carefully applied application of varnish remover. Hopefully a PO (previous owner) did not use a poly- urathane because that will be more difficult to remove..
One of the beauties of teak is that it is an encapsulated (oil) wood and will lend itself to refinishing better than any other wood and will not absorb water. This is why it is used extensivly throughout the marine industry. Oil is encapsulated within the pores of the wood and over time, this oil will naturally turn a darker shade. People have used bleach and various 'Teak Cleaners' which usually contain some type of acid to attempt to lighten the teak and it is moderatly effective.
On our Mk I interior, which has never had any other finish beyond an oil, we use an application of 'Liquid Gold' twice a year. Exterior teak gets a yearly coating of Cetol and is canvas covered from the harsh Florida sun's UV rays. 
Personaly, I think it would be a mistake to paint over the exsisting teak with a paint since I like the contrast between dark and light and once on - would be problematic to remove.
Now that being said, why not try and sand the finish off a small area of teak and see if you like it ?
Your question: On the Mark II boats that came from the factory with a lighter interior, they are using a different wood for interior finishing other than teak. I beleive it is ash which is naturally lighter and comes with a pre-applied finish.
 Hope that helps.
Bill

Bill Dolan 1990 Catalina C-36 MKI - Hull #1041  'Williwaw'
Std. Rig, Walk Through, Wing Keel
M35, Oberdorfer Conversion,
Home Waters; Charlotte  Harbor & The Gulf Islands of Florida
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Thanks Bill.  I was looking closely at the interior and I am going to try and touch it up and finish the unfinished places.  I took the ladder home and will practice on it.  I think maybe they used cetol on the inside it has the orange tint...
"Better than it was" is the goal.  I cant see me sanding off all the finish, and actually it looks fairly good in the low traffic areas.  Trim around sink, verticle post, ladder and wood near companionway are worst so I may sand them down and cetol if it matches.  Other than that a few touch ups.  
There are some areas in the open shelves amidship toward the bottom that are yellow.  I thought maybe they got wet but dont see how and it is on both sides.  I guess I will sand it but I am worried the wood under is discolored.  I believe the wood is a veneer in this area it is thin and flexy.

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Mike;
 There is another thought for the shelves that are showing signs of wear or water damage due to things like leaky chain plates -and that is to recover them with a teak venner  or a very thin piece of teak and glue it over the damaged shelf. We're fortunate to have a great teak supply place near by but a good wood worker or cabinet shop might be able  to direct  you where a good wood supply place is located in your area. Plus there is a good supply of teak on line. 
 As far as the solid teak pieces,just sand them down and start over.You can PM me if you need help.
Bill

Bill Dolan 1990 Catalina C-36 MKI - Hull #1041  'Williwaw'
Std. Rig, Walk Through, Wing Keel
M35, Oberdorfer Conversion,
Home Waters; Charlotte  Harbor & The Gulf Islands of Florida
'You are never out of work if you own a boat'

 

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Mike. On my Mark I, those shelves are a teak verneer plywood and are quite thin. 
Bill

Bill Dolan 1990 Catalina C-36 MKI - Hull #1041  'Williwaw'
Std. Rig, Walk Through, Wing Keel
M35, Oberdorfer Conversion,
Home Waters; Charlotte  Harbor & The Gulf Islands of Florida
'You are never out of work if you own a boat'

 

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Thanks Bill!  I will try to remember and get some pictures before and after to give back to the group.

Mike

Catalina 36 MK1
1984 Hull #306

 

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