Desert Sailor,
(Sorry I don't know your first name - it might be a good idea to update your "signature" with your name and a bit of info about your boat and location) Many years ago I saw a picture of a C36-MKI that had been converted to a cutter rig. They attached the staysail stay near the top of the mast, and didn't use running backstays. The lower end of the stay was attached to a very beefy chainplate, just forward of the forward hatch, which was attached to the aft end of the Vberth (I can't remember if they had to take out the drawers or not) with wire and a turnbuckle. It made getting into and out of the Vberth rather difficult.
The guy in the Catalina website hall of fame who sailed a mk1 c36 to new Zealand and back had a baby stay. It makes total sense for using a storm staysail with. I am going to fit such for offshore sailing and I will fit one of those levers that allow the stay to be out the way when not in use. For a storm sail it makes complete mechanical and physical sense.
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Duncan McNeill
1984 Catalina 36 #178
standard rig fin keel M25
Channel Islands
We have a removable inner forestay, from just above the spreaders to just behind the anchor well.
There is a chainplate bolted to the aft bulkhead of the anchor well with a Hyfield lever ready to connect to the inner forestay (see photo)
We have a hank on staysail for beating in stronger breezes, and a storm jib after that.
Because the inner is adjacent to the lower shrouds, we don't use running backstays. I have noticed a little 'pumping' of the mast when on staysail.
When not used I wrap the inner around a lower forward shroud and bungee down.
Hope that helps :-)
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S.V. Wind Star
Rob & Margie Kyles: Auckland ,New Zealand
Mk I Hull #105 1983 Std Rig, Std Keel
BTW, I should have mentioned, a true cutter rig would involve moving the mast aft, I believe, or a bow sprit - this would alter the balance.
I think I remember one boat that was modified thus for a round the world trip.
For me that would spoil the boat... ;-)
Rob
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S.V. Wind Star
Rob & Margie Kyles: Auckland ,New Zealand
Mk I Hull #105 1983 Std Rig, Std Keel
[quote=Rob Kyles]BTW, I should have mentioned, a true cutter rig would involve moving the mast aft, I believe, or a bow sprit - this would alter the balance.
I think I remember one boat that was modified thus for a round the world trip.
For me that would spoil the boat... ;-)
Rob[/quote]
I remember seeing that one, too, online a few years back, when it was on one of the online brokerage sites. The owner had also converted it to tiller steering, and moved the chainplates to the outside of the hull, among other things. It was an odd looking boat from the pictures (inside as well).
There's another C36 cutter for sale at the moment online, marketed with the selling point thus: "Expand your cruising territory with her cutter rig and lower mast 48' 6" bridge clearance." http://www.sailboatlistings.com/view/62512
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Matthew Chachère
s/v¡Que Chévere!
(Formerly 1985 C36 MKI #466 tall rig fin keel M25)
2006 Catalina Morgan 440 #30.
Homeported in eastern Long Island, NY
Certainly folks with inner stays for a storm sail.
2000 C36 MKII 1825
I would think you'd have to sacrifice a large portion of your jib and hence performance.
Paul & Wendy Keyser
"First Light"
Rye NH
2005 C36 MKII #2257
Wing, M35B
Desert Sailor,
(Sorry I don't know your first name - it might be a good idea to update your "signature" with your name and a bit of info about your boat and location) Many years ago I saw a picture of a C36-MKI that had been converted to a cutter rig. They attached the staysail stay near the top of the mast, and didn't use running backstays. The lower end of the stay was attached to a very beefy chainplate, just forward of the forward hatch, which was attached to the aft end of the Vberth (I can't remember if they had to take out the drawers or not) with wire and a turnbuckle. It made getting into and out of the Vberth rather difficult.
Tom Sokoloski
C36/375IA Past Commodore
Noank, CT
And I'm really not sure you gain a whole lot that can't be achieved with a nice genoa.
Phil L
Southern Cross
Channel Islands, CA
C36MKI #400
The guy in the Catalina website hall of fame who sailed a mk1 c36 to new Zealand and back had a baby stay. It makes total sense for using a storm staysail with. I am going to fit such for offshore sailing and I will fit one of those levers that allow the stay to be out the way when not in use. For a storm sail it makes complete mechanical and physical sense.
Duncan McNeill
1984 Catalina 36 #178
standard rig fin keel M25
Channel Islands
We have a removable inner forestay, from just above the spreaders to just behind the anchor well.
There is a chainplate bolted to the aft bulkhead of the anchor well with a Hyfield lever ready to connect to the inner forestay (see photo)
We have a hank on staysail for beating in stronger breezes, and a storm jib after that.
Because the inner is adjacent to the lower shrouds, we don't use running backstays. I have noticed a little 'pumping' of the mast when on staysail.
When not used I wrap the inner around a lower forward shroud and bungee down.
Hope that helps :-)
S.V. Wind Star
Rob & Margie Kyles: Auckland ,New Zealand
Mk I Hull #105 1983 Std Rig, Std Keel
BTW, I should have mentioned, a true cutter rig would involve moving the mast aft, I believe, or a bow sprit - this would alter the balance.
I think I remember one boat that was modified thus for a round the world trip.
For me that would spoil the boat... ;-)
Rob
S.V. Wind Star
Rob & Margie Kyles: Auckland ,New Zealand
Mk I Hull #105 1983 Std Rig, Std Keel
Thanks Rob.
[quote=Rob Kyles]BTW, I should have mentioned, a true cutter rig would involve moving the mast aft, I believe, or a bow sprit - this would alter the balance.
I think I remember one boat that was modified thus for a round the world trip.
For me that would spoil the boat... ;-)
Rob[/quote]
I remember seeing that one, too, online a few years back, when it was on one of the online brokerage sites. The owner had also converted it to tiller steering, and moved the chainplates to the outside of the hull, among other things. It was an odd looking boat from the pictures (inside as well).
There's another C36 cutter for sale at the moment online, marketed with the selling point thus: "Expand your cruising territory with her cutter rig and lower mast 48' 6" bridge clearance."
http://www.sailboatlistings.com/view/62512
Matthew Chachère
s/v ¡Que Chévere!
(Formerly 1985 C36 MKI #466 tall rig fin keel M25)
2006 Catalina Morgan 440 #30.
Homeported in eastern Long Island, NY