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WeatherBound
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always wet vberth

The foot of the vberth always seems to be damp (and under the cushions) with occasional puddles. The moisture is evident on the piece of plywood separating the vberth from the chain locker. Hosed the chain locker down and saw no leaks. Is this a condensation proble I will have to live with or is there a solution? Already a solar fan in the hatch. Thanks

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I had the same problem and seemed to have solved it by removing that piece of wood that separates the anchor locker from the vee berth. I then placed a bead of silicone on the edge and reattached it with the screws.

Glenn Druhot
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New Bern, NC
35* 6' 10" N / 77* 2' 30" W
2001 C36, Hull #1965
Std Rig; Wing Keel; M35B

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If your like me you want a dry boat in the inside. Water on the outside. With the caulking of the board that covers the windlass and the anchor box. All that will do is is force the water to go down under your 3 drawers under the vberth. What you need to do is remove the forward board and have someone on deck with all your anchor or anchors removed. Then take a water hose and spray it all over the anchor locked area. Not just lightly but drenched it.

Then while your in the vberth with a light or flashlight you start looking for the leak. As there will be one if you have water under your cushions. I had to do the same thing as when we would take green water over the bow we would get water below at times. But not no more as we store books and towels up there and they stay dry as a bone no mater what conditions we go through.

Randy Sherwood
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On my boat it was a simple problem - that piece of wood on the bulkhead was attached with screws that pierced the wall of the anchor locker. Big waves would seep through the holes. I chucked that whole piece of wood, put some little trim strips 2" wide around the perimeter to tidy it up, and plugged the screw holes. No more leaks.

Jason V
Vancouver, BC, Canada

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Weatherbound,
I had the same problem on Julandra. It turned out to be a gap where the hull, deck, and anchor locker all meet. Water would flow onto the lip holding the anchor locker cover, and then under the lip to the corners. I think in later hulls they changed the construction technique to better seal the corners.

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Tom Sokoloski
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Tom - I'm working on fixing the exactly same problem on mine. Figured that the water flow over the lip and into that gap is the issue. I have caulked the whole area now and hope its dry going forward.

Thanks for your post.

Mark

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Thanks all. Last year I found that the windlass button had no gasket or caulk and took care of that. But I still get water. I didn't go through the effort of removing the anchor and chain but will next time.

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[QUOTE=ProfDruhot;17943]I had the same problem and seemed to have solved it by removing that piece of wood that separates the anchor locker from the vee berth. I then placed a bead of silicone on the edge and reattached it with the screws.[/QUOTE]

Thanks.
That was my thought and I don't see that area draining anywhere but the bilge. No wet feet is the goal....Happy Sailing

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Hi, 

I just realized I have a similar issue on our 'new' MK 1. Same symptom - saltwater under vberth mattresses. The bilge space under the v-berth appeared to be dry, but the lower wood panel covering the anchor locker looked wet. Took it off and found a little kink in the lower backwards edge of the anchor locker.
  
Temporary fix: 4200 for this reason, then serious epoxy and fibreglass work.

Will post pictures later.

Daniel

1988 Catalina 36 MK I - Swept Away

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Daniel
i had the same problem and found the problem to be the joint at the top of the anchor lock where the bulkhead meet the hull deck joint I used epoxy with filler and filled everywhere I could and couldn't  see.   To day 3~4 years later nary a leak.  
Best of luck 

Mike Hogan
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Mark I XP25, std rig

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Weatherbound, please post some information about you and your boat...year, hull number, Mk series, and where you're based. We're trying to help you, and we would like to know who we're talking to. Often (although maybe not in this instance) a question you post will have a series-specific answer, so you'll get a higher quality answer faster if you inform us up front. 

Larry Brandt
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2002 C-36 mkII SR/FK M35B
 

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Hi Mike,

it looks that in my case the leak is the seam of the rear wall of the locker. The bad news: someone tried to fix it before - several times as it looks and never overly successfully...

Still good: the bilge below the drain hose is dry - although water from the v-berth had accumulated under the drawers.

Some pictures are here: http://imgur.com/a/xUxE0#2

Let's see if life-caulk as a quick fix will keep things a bit dry, then a real fix in the winter - perhaps I'll follow the example to install a base for a windlass...

Cheers,

Daniel

1988 Catalina 36 MK I - Swept Away

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If that doesn't fix it, do this search in the forum:

"Ben Ethridge" "anchor" "leak"

I posted several times on this problem and the various solutions I had to come up with over the months (years?), as you can see.

It's been totally dry now for many months, so I think I finally got them all stopped....for now. :-)

Ben Ethridge
Miami, FL
1984 MK1 Hull# 263

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I had the same problems on my C30 and I know there is a small leak in Wavelength.
My solution for my 30 was to buy a can of spray truck liner.  It creates a nice rubber coating on the surface, sealing all the little nooks and crannies.    It worked like a charm and was easy and inexpensive to do.  Just do a good cleaning job of the anchor locker so it will bond well.  I used a full can by spraying 3 layers.

Ross & Joanne
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Saint John NB
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C36 #658 TR 1987

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I was just dealing with this very problem! I ended up re-glassing the aft bulk head joints in the anchor locker then silicon along the interior seams (V-Berth side). So far so good, but we'll see. This area (the bulkhead) tends to flex as the windlass on our boat is mounted to it. My fear is the brittle epoxy breaking down over time which is why I went with silicon in the seams. Disassembling the interior wood panel was very revealing :(

 

36' Catalina MK1
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I have been reading the posts about the V-berth water leak and I have solved my problem - see 3 images below.

  1.  The panel can be removed without removing any of the molding
  2. I located the leak and it was from the shaft seal of the windlass - but I was unable to remove the frozen shaft.
  3. The solution - a funnel - no more water
  4. On the right side you see the remote control relays that I have added to operate up and down using a switch box while at the helm.
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If seeing water below the v-berth, the OEM anchor locker drain fittings are known to crack with age.  Just replaced mine this spring.  Not for the claustrophobic when reaching up there. 

Russell Green
S/V "GoodwiII"  #759
1987 C36 MKI TR/WK M25XP
Moored: Deale, MD

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My original temp-fix with lifecaulk did not work. But I hope I got my problem under control after spring work: two coats of Gluvit to fill the cracks from inside the locker and from the v-berth side of the bulkhead. Then a layer of west system with adhesive filler to cover the seam and provide a smooth surface. On top of that spray-on truck bed liner.

I'll share if it worked.

1988 Catalina 36 MK I - Swept Away

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Loving that through hull! Looks like someone glass the aft facing bulkhead in your locker too. Is that done at the factory or PO I wonder.....

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We had 2 problems allowing water into the V berth. There was a gap (as mentioned) at the top of the anchor locker. Water would run along the inside top edge of the locker until it reached the side, then go down the hull into the area under the V berth. Fixed it with expanding foam insulation. The other problem (that allowed water to get to the cushions) was leaking deck joint screws. We were also getting water in the forward hanging locker due to this problem. Rebedded all of the screws on the port side from the bow back to the forward, lower shroud. This seems to have fixed my problems. Good luck.

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1987 C-36 Wing Keel
Universal M25XP 23hp
Hull #705
Coastal Alabama

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