Hello C36 comrades:
I am the longtime owner of a 1991 C36 MKI (or MK 1.5 as some people describe this vintage). I have been thinking about the possibility of moving to a MKII, but I have noticed that the headroom on the MKII seems to be lower. I find the headroom on the Mk I to be very comfortable. I stand 6'2''.
I'd love to hear thoughts on the headroom on the MkII.
Thanks.
--Nelson Lee
"Zephyr"
hull 1193
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Nelson Lee, "Stella," 2002 C36, hull 2069, Universal M35BC, berthed Sausalito, CA
I cannot imagine that the headroom would be any different on the Mk II versus the Mk I. I guess only a tape measure will tell the tale.
Larry Brandt
S/V High Flight #2109
Pacific Northwest, PDX-based
2002 C-36 mkII SR/FK M35B
I think the headroom is less where the main, sliding hatch lives. On the MkI, it's under a sea hood (preferable in my opinion). On the Mk II, it's under a cover, flush with the deck, so it protrudes a bit into the headroom. That's just over the galley sink, and is where the headroom is greatest. I'm 6 foot even, and have never hit my head on it, though I don't know the actual measurement.
Gary and Cathy Price
1997 C36 Mk II Tall Rig/Wing Keel Imagine...
Hull # 1617
Worton Creek, Md.
Northern Chesapeake Bay
One thing you do loose on the MK 11 is the room taken for the aft stateroom and given up in the nav station area
Bill Miller
S/V Lorraine
Pacific Northwest,Sound Sound
Grapeview,Wa
1990 Mk1
As the owner of a '91 MK I, I'd be interested in hearing your reasons for moving to a MK II since I've thought about it myself. I love the MK II cockpit and some of the interior upgrades like the counters and wooden tables, but I think I'd miss the MK I nav station too much.:(
Mike
Deja Vu
1991 MK I # 1106
Marina del Rey, CA
Move to a Catalina 350. I have two friends with these and the headroom is incredible. But the freeboard is a little crazy also.
You can find them close in price to the later model 36 MKII's.
They're much slower than the 36MKII.
2000 C36 MKII 1825
This is interesting.
My main motivation in moving to a Mark II would be to have a furling main. Ok, I know all the reasons why that is a bad idea, etc., but I am a pretty senior sailor, and at some point you are looking at either a power boat, or something easier to single-hand, which is my situation most of the time. I also like the idea of having a windlass, real mattresses, and a real stateroom in the aft.
That said, the 1991 Mk1.5 is a great boat, and I may very well end of staying with it.
I think the modifications in the MKII are more significant than some suggest. For example, I think the freeboard is lower, by perhaps as much as 2 inches. And I know the head room is reduced, although it may well be just in the area where the companionway hatch was lowered, as suggested by another member. It is quite noticeable, I'll tell you, to someone of my height.
Where are Frank Butler and Jerry Douglas when we need them!
They are all good boats. I'm just thinking ahead. Happy holidays to all.
--Nelson
Nelson Lee, "Stella," 2002 C36, hull 2069, Universal M35BC, berthed Sausalito, CA
Jim, for many reasons I wouldn't trade from a C36 MkII to a 350. I instructed in the San Juan Islands on a 350 when they first came out and while there are a lot of things I LOVED about the boat (a real midship cleat, and the mother-in-law suite accessible via the cockpit, for examples), I hated the interior layout. Personally - which is really what this is all about - I love the C36 layout for conviviality, especially our U-shaped dinette. It can't be beat, IMHO.
Larry Brandt
S/V High Flight #2109
Pacific Northwest, PDX-based
2002 C-36 mkII SR/FK M35B
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I think the modifications in the MKII are more significant than some suggest. For example, I think the freeboard is lower, by perhaps as much as 2 inches.
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Since all 36s are supposed to be the same below the waterline, other than the wing/fin keels of course, it would seem odd that the freeboard on the Mk II would be lower. I don't recall ever hearing this before. I would not have thought Catalina would have reduced the height of the sides of the hull. Perhaps Mk IIs sit deeper in the water due to more weight. The more weight would be from the wider aft sections above the waterline.
I'm 6' and head room is not an issue in our boat. We wanted a Mk II mostly because of the wider cockpit.
I would not buy a 350, we were on one last summer, it seems a lot of wasted space in the cabin and the windage from the high freeboard has got to be a real negative. Plus just not a real pretty boat like the 36 is.