Does anybody have pictures of where the water heater goes on a 1993 C36? Mine did not come with one, and I'd like to put it where it is supposed to go if possible. I say "if possible" because there is some custum stuff installed at or near the area where I think it goes (area under the stern dinnette seat). Any pictures that show where it is typically located, and what is supposed to be there to support it, would be most appreciated!
All the best--JAS
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Joel Schwartz
s/v Get-A-Grip
1993 Catalina 36 Hull #1259
Newport Beach, California
Don't have pictures, but in ours -- and as far as I know all factory installations -- its essentially under the dry locker, to the port of the galley sink, and aft of the stern dinette seat. Not the easiest location to get to (luckily, ours had been replaced shortly before we purchased), but if you do some searches here you'll find some write-ups by other members about accessing it.
Matthew Chachère
s/v ¡Que Chévere!
(Formerly 1985 C36 MKI #466 tall rig fin keel M25)
2006 Catalina Morgan 440 #30.
Homeported in eastern Long Island, NY
Thanks, Matthew. I think I have a water desal system occupying that spot. I'll look closer tonight--JAS
Joel Schwartz
s/v Get-A-Grip
1993 Catalina 36 Hull #1259
Newport Beach, California
JAS,
Sail your boat to a South Pacific island where you won't need or want hot water - problem solved.
Duane Ising - Past Commodore (2011-2012)
s/v Diva Di
1999 Catalina 36 Hull #1777
Std rig; wing keel, M35B, Delta (45#)
Punta Gorda, FL
http://www.sailblogs.com/member/diva-di/
I can't imagine what would be installed in that space that couldn't be relocated if need be. There really isn't another option to locate the water heater though.
You have to remove the frame for the galley drawers to get to the space. This is a chore I have waiting for me once it warms up enough to start doing boat work.
If you plan to install a dual heat design your bigger problem if probably going to be fishing hoses to plumb into the engine fresh water circuit for engine heated water.
Bill Boggs
s/v Palmetto Moon
1991 C36, Hull 1128
Herrington Harbor South
Chesapeake Bay
[QUOTE=bboggs;16504]
If you plan to install a dual heat design your bigger problem is probably going to be fishing hoses to plumb into the engine fresh water circuit for engine heated water.[/QUOTE]
Bill's right. In a link I provided in another recent hot water heater topic, I noted that my PO had placed short extension hoses on the back of the heater. This made connecting the long hoses from the engine MUCH easier. You could also consider placing the hoses to/from the engine onto the heater before you put it in place. Good luck.
Stu Jackson, C34IA Secretary, C34 #224, 1986, SR/FK, M25 engine, Rocna 10 (22#)
All really good suggestions, gentelmen. Believe it or not, I have picture requests posted in the Catalina forums and multiple emails, and nobody has one. For that reason, I will be posting pictures of the install, once I figure out exactly where that bloody thing is supposed to go!
Joel Schwartz
s/v Get-A-Grip
1993 Catalina 36 Hull #1259
Newport Beach, California
There is a well detailed MKI water heater replacement with pics in the Technical-Maintenance section.
[url]http://www.c36ia.com/node/170[/url]
Bill Boggs
s/v Palmetto Moon
1991 C36, Hull 1128
Herrington Harbor South
Chesapeake Bay
Followed the link to the excellent description and photos. Only one suggestion... When I replaced the water heater on my former C-34' I used a piece of King Starboard instead of plywood. No time spent sealing and painting and the stuff is indestructible!
Joe & Patti Worth
"Tehani"
1999 C36 MKII #1810
Atlantic Highlands, NJ
Replace the plywood base and a heater fan plumbed in series in this year's list of projects....
---- Howard & Linda Matwick ----
--- S/V "Silhouette" - Nanaimo, BC ----
--- 1999 C36 MkII #1776 M35BC ---
[QUOTE=bboggs;16517]There is a well detailed MKI water heater replacement with pics in the Technical-Maintenance section.
[url]http://www.c36ia.com/node/170[/url][/QUOTE]
Great find Bboggs!
Just out of curiosity, is the water heater on that 1985 located in the same place as your 1991? That is the first clear picture I have ever seen of where the water heater goes.
Joel Schwartz
s/v Get-A-Grip
1993 Catalina 36 Hull #1259
Newport Beach, California
[QUOTE=jworth3;16519]Followed the link to the excellent description and photos. Only one suggestion... When I replaced the water heater on my former C-34' I used a piece of King Starboard instead of plywood. No time spent sealing and painting and the stuff is indestructible![/QUOTE]
Thanks....Looking up King Starboard now.
Joel Schwartz
s/v Get-A-Grip
1993 Catalina 36 Hull #1259
Newport Beach, California
"Starboard". You can get a slab of it at West Marine, but you might find a better price on a generic substitute at Tap Plastics.
Larry Brandt
S/V High Flight #2109
Pacific Northwest, PDX-based
2002 C-36 mkII SR/FK M35B
And Joel, if you've never browsed through our Technical libraries it's a worthwhile expedition. We have pages upon pages of articles, most of which apply to your model boat. Access them via the C36IA homepage, click on Technical, then on Upgrades or Maintenance. There's a LOAD of good information there.
Easiest way to the homepage is by clicking on Catalina 36 International Association in the blue bar, lower right corner of this page.
Larry Brandt
S/V High Flight #2109
Pacific Northwest, PDX-based
2002 C-36 mkII SR/FK M35B
[QUOTE=JAS;16521]Great find Bboggs!
Just out of curiosity, is the water heater on that 1985 located in the same place as your 1991? That is the first clear picture I have ever seen of where the water heater goes.[/QUOTE]
Yes. Same place.
Edited to add -- Good call on the starboard. If I find I need to make a similar mod that's the way I plan to go.
Bill Boggs
s/v Palmetto Moon
1991 C36, Hull 1128
Herrington Harbor South
Chesapeake Bay
[QUOTE=LCBrandt;16523]"Starboard". You can get a slab of it at West Marine, but you might find a better price on a generic substitute at Tap Plastics.[/QUOTE]
Thanks LC. As an FYI to others, I looked up the generic name for King Starboard at Tap Plastics. It is called HDPE...and it is indeed quite a bit cheaper. Although the max thickness I am able to select on their website is 3/8 in. Is that thick enough to support a six gallon water heater on?
Joel Schwartz
s/v Get-A-Grip
1993 Catalina 36 Hull #1259
Newport Beach, California
Joel,
I'd give a TAP store a call. I could be wrong but I believe the stores carry thicker boards... When I made the stern seats for my boat I used 1/2". The clerk at the TAP store talked me out of using 3/4" which they had in stock then.
I would think 1/2" would do the trick. It supports a lot of weight.
Chris
Chris Stewart
S/V "24~7"
1984 Catalina 36 Tall
Hull #251 M25
(SF Bay) Alameda, CA
I used the 1/2" HDPE under my water heater - worked great!
Joe & Patti Worth
"Tehani"
1999 C36 MKII #1810
Atlantic Highlands, NJ
[QUOTE=chs1517;16527]Joel,
I'd give a TAP store a call. I could be wrong but I believe the stores carry thicker boards... When I made the stern seats for my boat I used 1/2". The clerk at the TAP store talked me out of using 3/4" which they had in stock then.
I would think 1/2" would do the trick. It supports a lot of weight.
Chris[/QUOTE]
Chris is right, 1/2" is more than adequate, looks "right" and works. Local plastic shops are just fine, don't pay WM prices.
[url]http://c34.org/bbs/index.php/topic,6816.0.html[/url]
Stu Jackson, C34IA Secretary, C34 #224, 1986, SR/FK, M25 engine, Rocna 10 (22#)
For what its worth, I just received my brand new 6 gallon seaward heater and the platform that is in my boat a MK1 isn't long enough for the mounting tabs on the heater, so I will be doing the HDPE board as well.
Fred & Cathy
Black Magic
1984 Catalina 36 Tall
Hull #315
Traverse City, MI