I just read Mark H. Balentine's article from 2004 about replacing his cabin sole, and wondered where the materials are available.
Thanks, David Hanson, deltahans
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David Hanson
-Watercolor-
1993 C-36 MKI #1244
Stockton CA
I just read Mark H. Balentine's article from 2004 about replacing his cabin sole, and wondered where the materials are available.
Thanks, David Hanson, deltahans
David Hanson
-Watercolor-
1993 C-36 MKI #1244
Stockton CA
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There may be alternative materials available nowadays as technology does evolve. I wonder if there are some synthetics that would provide more durability. Any ideas would be appreciated.
Larry Brandt
S/V High Flight #2109
Pacific Northwest, PDX-based
2002 C-36 mkII SR/FK M35B
I replaced my sole with a vinyle product as I got tired of replacing panels that got moisture in them and delaminated. The exact name escapes me but you can find a number of options using Google. It comes in satin and gloss finish with a teak/holly look (there are other wood colors as well). This is actually what most builders are using on new boats.
The product comes in sheets 6' wide and as long as you want it. Some vendors sell something where you actually have to lay down each teak and holly strip. That's good if you have nothing to do all winter and want to go absolutely nuts.
I mounted it on 1/4 inch marine plywood, which I had sealed, then I used velcro tabs to keep the panels in place rather than screwing them down as Catalina originally did (no holes in the deck or in the plywood for sepage and they're easy to get up to clean under them). Since I'm in New Jersey with extreme temp changes summer to winter, the vendor recommended a 2 part epoxy glue to eliminate problems with expansion and contraction. The flooring will NEVER come off the plywood!
The only problem I had was getting the holly lines to line up from aft to forard. Thought I had everything lined up correctly on my deck at home, but when I put the pieces in the boat I was 1/4" off by the nav table going forward and the holly lines on the panel going into the Vee berth hook to port ever so slightly. Since we have throw rugs over the panel connections anyway, no one notices unless I point it out to them. Not sure how I'd correct that problem if I was to do it again.
The whole job cost about $800 and I'm very pleased with it. Any moisture or spillage gets wiped off very easily.
Chuck Parker
HelenRita 2072 Mk II
2002 Tall Rig - Winged Keel
Atlantic Highlands, NJ
Chuck, thanks for the suggestions. I will start researching sources. David
David Hanson
-Watercolor-
1993 C-36 MKI #1244
Stockton CA
Larry, thanks. Is your boat named after an interest in flying? I have been flying since
1965 but had to give it up. David
David Hanson
-Watercolor-
1993 C-36 MKI #1244
Stockton CA
The sole in my 92 was pretty beat up and stained. I took it all out and had a furnature re-finisher, srtip and spray an epoxy finish. Looks like new, except for a few dents that couldn't be repaired. Pretty cost effective compaired to other choices. I looked at the vinyl choices but the commodore wanted to stay with wood.
Neil Roach
"Crewless"
1992 36, Mark I
Hull # 1174
Seattle
We took ours out last summer, brought them home, stripped them and refinished them with Minwax. Yup, couldn't get all the dings out, but they look at lot better. Not as "professional" as some I've seen on the internet, but it works just fine for us. We had some water penetration near the shower/head door, so we did the edges, too.
Stu Jackson, C34IA Secretary, C34 #224, 1986, SR/FK, M25 engine, Rocna 10 (22#)
Chuck, do you recall what was your source for the synthetic product?
Larry Brandt
S/V High Flight #2109
Pacific Northwest, PDX-based
2002 C-36 mkII SR/FK M35B
Larry...
I was having a senior moment remembering the name of the product ... your question reminded me that I actually bought the vinyl from Defender.... the manufacturer wont sell direct. The product is Lonseal (at least on the Defender website.. the manufacturere might call it something else) and you can see pictures of it on-line in the Defender catalog. I seem to remember they had to special order the satin finish as they only stocked the gloss when I was buying.
One other point for those concerend about how it might look. Its easy to glue it to 1/4" plywood for the various pieces (other than getting the holly to line up) , but I was concerned about how to replace the bilge covers which are solid teak and not a laminate. Well, when I laid the real teak & holly bilge covers down next to the vinyl, I defy anyone to tell the difference unless I tell them. I used the orginal bige covers as they tend not to delaminate or get mold since they are not laminated.
Chuck Parker
HelenRita 2072 Mk II
2002 Tall Rig - Winged Keel
Atlantic Highlands, NJ