I am sure it is not just my boat but it seems to me the waterline is set pretty low on the C36. Comments?
I only have about 1" of "clearance" at the bow while sitting in still water. I have only one anchor up front, 50' of chain anchor rode (the rest is line) and we are generally weekend cruisers so we aren't full of stuff down below.
My plan is to raise the waterline just up to the blue boot stripe. My hull is not epoxied so I think I will just "tape out" the new water line and paint up to it using bottom paint.
Is it as easy as this?
Rick Verbeek
Toronto
Southpaws
C36 1999
Hull #1763
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Rick Verbeek
Southpaws
1999 C36 #1763
Lakeshore Yacht Club
Toronto
Rick,
Possibly part of the problem might be fresh vs. salt water? If I remember any of my high school physics, items are more buoyant in salt water. Also, if you have 1" of clearance, what's the problem? If your water line was under water, I could understand the concern. Just a thought.
Tom Sokoloski
C36/375IA Past Commodore
Noank, CT
Had similar problem on Scottfree, hull 1073. Water line at bow and stern where submerged, while midships was 2-3'' above water. Water line was gel-coated in so it was a bit of a pain to correct, and not a simple moving up of the bottom paint. Boat is in fresh water.
Bob Scott
Scottfree
1073
We have about 1" of white gelcoat between the bottom paint and the blue boot top stripe. I am going to eliminate that white this spring because within days of being launched it starts turning yellow from the rather nasty water in the Bay of Quinte. I'm barrier coating the bottom so I'm going to rough up the white area with sand paper and barrier coat it as well, then bottom paint it.
We currently have a 45 lb Delta with 100' of 5/16" HT chain and 200 feet 5/8" double braid up front. Our new windlass is substantially heavier than the original one was. We also are aft cabin sleepers so the V-berth is the garage. Despite that added weight the white line is out of the water at the bow when at rest at the dock.
The white line still shows above water all around the boat but I think that once we get finished with this year's additions (wind gen, larger RIB Dink and 9.8 motor, another 45 lb anchor and 100' more feet of chain) and get loaded for the extended cruising we hope to do this year it's going to be at least partly under water anyway. I hope it won't need to be raised anymore than that.
My white water line stripe would grow nasty looking green stuff plus the northern Chesapeake mud line. I didn't want to get rid of the stripe, since it's a nice visual effect, so I decided to paint it with Interlux bottom paint, shark white. It's a pain, since I have to tape it off, paint it, then come back in a day or two and tape over it so I can paint the bottom (blue). But it works pretty well, no green slime on the waterline. Mud still has to be scrubbed off.
Gary and Cathy Price
1997 C36 Mk II Tall Rig/Wing Keel Imagine...
Hull # 1617
Worton Creek, Md.
Northern Chesapeake Bay
Gary- I like your idea. I may try that at next year's haulout.
I hate looking at that nasty line we get in the Chesapeake (to say nothing of what I also get from the Baltimore Harbor).
Laura Olsen
Past Commodore
S/V Miramar
hull 938 (MKI 1989, TR,WK, M25xp)
Edgemere, MD
As several of you pointed out, the idea is to get rid of the ugly brown stripe that comes from the water lapping up over the water line. Our yacht club in a storm water basin (believe it or not) so we can get some really interesting changes in water color after a storm. Totally agree I like the visual effect of the white line between the boot strip and the painted hull so might consider the idea noted by Gary.
Cheers,
Rick
C36 1999
Hull #1763
Toronto on Lake Ontario
Rick Verbeek
Southpaws
1999 C36 #1763
Lakeshore Yacht Club
Toronto
My stern is in below the water line and I have growth on it as well. I though it was overloaded - but I have removed any additional items that may load the stern down. It is still below the water line and I am having to scrape the growth often . I am definitely going to paint so that I will cover the brown growth area. But - I still would like to know if it is overloaded.
Haro Bayandorian, 1999 C36 MKII, Sail La Vie #1787, M35B,
Coyote Point, San Mateo, CA.
I too like the visual of the white stripe but I am afraid it will be underwater by the time we get loaded to go. Blue bottom paint it is for now to keep maintenance as simple as possible.
Haro, what do you have in/on the stern?
Bsrteet - There is a radar post and radar at the back end -that was added when I bought it. I do not see anything unusual that would sink the stern so far down. It had 2 additional 40 lb. and a smaller anchor in the port lazaretto - but I have removed them. There was grill mounted on the stern pulpit - I have removed that as well. There is no water in the tanks at the back. I only put water in the bow tank. The fuel has only 3/4 full. The only difference is that the aft bedroom has a special mattress for those with bad back - like me- that is stiffer. I can not see why this would weigh it down quite so far. You can see the boat in the link of my signature.
Haro Bayandorian, 1999 C36 MKII, Sail La Vie #1787, M35B,
Coyote Point, San Mateo, CA.
I tried your link, Haro, and could not connect.
Duane Ising - Past Commodore (2011-2012)
s/v Diva Di
1999 Catalina 36 Hull #1777
Std rig; wing keel, M35B, Delta (45#)
Punta Gorda, FL
http://www.sailblogs.com/member/diva-di/
[QUOTE=baysailor2000;7995]Bsrteet - There is a radar post and radar at the back end -that was added when I bought it. I do not see anything unusual that would sink the stern so far down. It had 2 additional 40 lb. and a smaller anchor in the port lazaretto - but I have removed them. There was grill mounted on the stern pulpit - I have removed that as well. There is no water in the tanks at the back. I only put water in the bow tank. The fuel has only 3/4 full. The only difference is that the aft bedroom has a special mattress for those with bad back - like me- that is stiffer. I can not see why this would weigh it down quite so far. You can see the boat in the link of my signature.[/QUOTE]
This is just my opinion, but it seems to me that the boot stripe is not necessarily applied consistently. My MkII has the bootstripe about 5" or so above the actual waterline, while at the bow, it's about 1". My '88 C30 was the same, only the bow was right at the waterline. One neither boat did this change all that much as the boats were loaded down with 'stuff' over the years. There are a couple other C36 Mk II's in my marina on the hard, and one has the waterline forward much higher than mine. So I'm not sure yours is a loading problem.
If I were to have the topsides painted, I'd definitely relocate the boot stripe. Unfortunately, that's not likely to happen ($$$$).
Gary and Cathy Price
1997 C36 Mk II Tall Rig/Wing Keel Imagine...
Hull # 1617
Worton Creek, Md.
Northern Chesapeake Bay
On the first generation boats at least, the waterline is not quite parralel to the water - it is lower at the ends. Add to this the fact that I have not yet seen a C36 that wasn't 2000 lbs over the 'design weight' in the brochure, and most of them have little room to spare at the waterline at one end or the other.
Jason V
Vancouver, BC, Canada
Hi deising - The link is updated. Try again.
Haro Bayandorian, 1999 C36 MKII, Sail La Vie #1787, M35B,
Coyote Point, San Mateo, CA.
Here is a waterline shot that shows this sailor kept the weight light at the stern.
Duane Ising - Past Commodore (2011-2012)
s/v Diva Di
1999 Catalina 36 Hull #1777
Std rig; wing keel, M35B, Delta (45#)
Punta Gorda, FL
http://www.sailblogs.com/member/diva-di/
The water line on Caprice at the stern had to be raised about an inch or so. I thought it was because I was gaining weight so I either had to go on a diet or raise the water line at the stern. I decided it was easier to raise the water line.
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Punta Gorda Florida
1990 Std WK M35 Hull #1050
Lots of water line stories out there. I think my plan will be to "tape out" the new water line, paint up to it with bottom coat/paint. This will result in loss of the white stripe. To "reconstitute" it, I will use that sticky boat tape (not sure what it is made from). I went around our club last weekend and lots of boat have boot stripe made from this. It seems to be extremely durable and colour fast. In the end the blue boot strip at the water line will be narrower but will still be sufficient from what I see on other boats. Not sure if I'll actually get around to it this spring but if I do l'll post a follow up.
Rick Verbeek
1999 C36 #1763
Lakeshore Yacht Club
Toronto, Ontario
Rick Verbeek
Southpaws
1999 C36 #1763
Lakeshore Yacht Club
Toronto