I have a 1984 Mark I 36 so this is directed to those folks on the list that may have a boat about the same age. I am going to have to describe something that has been puzzling me for some time that is under the forward starboard setee, i can't draw worth a hoot and I don't know if i can describe what I am seeing in the compartment under the seat but here goes. I don't have another 36 to compare to this to but what i see is if i look straight down below the cover of the series of what i can only describe a what appear to be pieces of what look to be 2x4's of 2X6's cut at a 45 degree angle running from the front of the seat attached to hull with fiberglass cloth running to the back of the hull. In addition to that there doesn't appear to be any way for water that get in the area to drain either from the area under the seat or from the upper to the lower portion of the area under the seat. the net result is that any water in that area just accumulates. I have contacted catalina (kent) to see if he can shed some light on what function that is suppose to do, i can't see that it provides an benefit to the structure of the boat but I didn't build the boat. anyone else have anything that looks like that in that area of the boat. it doesn't appear to be something that was added on but I purchased the boat about 5 years ago so anything is possible. i plan to remove the structure and provide a way to allow collected what to drain into the bilge but any insight would be helpful. I figger i'll construct something along the same lines just with holes to allow the water to pass thru. If i get a chance i'll take a picture.
regards
Mike Hogan
s/v Ciscocat #226
Mark I XP25, std rig
MIke,
A picture would be worth a lot of words, not sure if they would add up to a thousand. In my mind the only thing I could picture would be either the previous owner was building a battery box for added batteries or your boat has a smile preventer installed, ( I have never heard of such a thing) as that is about the area forward of the keel that the smile occures if the hull is not propperly supported on the hard or the keel bolts become loose.
Please post pictures and let us know what Kent has to say about it.
Steve
Cepheus dream
C36 MK I # 825
MK I Tech Editor No Mas
Well, I can't help either, but if you are getting water in that compartment it might be a leaking chain plate. Mine (1987) doesn't have a drain to the bilge and that is good in that I may have not have been aware of the leak if I hadn't seen the standing water. If it is a chain plate, there is an article in the tech section regarding re-bedding. Very helpful, although I used butyl tape rather than caulk.
Didn't intend to hijack the thread. Looking forward to hearing what you learn. Good luck.
Jeff
S/V Wind Ensemble
1987 C-36 Wing Keel
Universal M25XP 23hp
Hull #705
Coastal Alabama
Yep it is a leaking chain plate and I thought I had all fixed obviously not still not a good idea to my way of thinking to allow Standing water in any part of the boat just didn't want to pont out my failure to implement what should be a relatively easy fix. I mean it not like I haven't tried. I mean I used butyl tape and there is still a problem. At least it not leaking from the bottom of the boat as I first thought! Onward through the fog!
Mike Hogan
s/v Ciscocat #226
Mark I XP25, std rig
Mike,
Before you go drilling holes in or thru that compartment, study it carefully. From memory (and the memory is foggier every day), that forward compartment is along the hull, and above the floorboards, which means if you drill a hole in the corner for water to drain out, you will be drilling either thru the hull or into the main part of the cabin, and not into the bilge. Again, this is all from memory, and I hope I'm wrong, but be carefull. I also think it was the PO's attempt to build a battery tray. That's where I installed a starting battery on Julandra, but I had to run the wires up along the hull, under the game table. I don't think there was access to the bilge from that compartment.
Tom Sokoloski
C36/375IA Past Commodore
Noank, CT
Excellent point, Tom. I believe you are absolutely correct regarding access to the bilge from that compartment. It doesn't exist. At least not on hull 705. My advice is to take the standing water for the gift that it is...an indication of a leak. Find and repair the leak. I still check that compartment regularly on my boat and thankfully it has remained dry.
Good luck,
Jeff
S/V Wind Ensemble
1987 C-36 Wing Keel
Universal M25XP 23hp
Hull #705
Coastal Alabama
Tom et al.
thanks for the input, surprisingly i did notice that there was no direct way from the compartment to the bilge and i didn't drill any holes in the hull. I got a call from Kent and after describing what i saw there was a verrrrrry long pause. He had no idea what it was his only suggestion was a wine rack. anyway it is not anything that is standard and i believe i will remove it. i did determine after inspecting the chain plate that attaches the upper shroud that even though i purchased the new chain plate covers that Catalina is selling and i did use a form of butyl tape there appeared to be a gap between the cover and the chain plate. I have order the tape that Maine Sail list on his web site and I'll see if that holds up better that what i purchased from the RV store. I plan to post a pic just to see if anyone can offer a suggestion as to what in the world the PO could have planned for that area. it has me stumped..
Mike Hogan
s/v Ciscocat #226
Mark I XP25, std rig
With the new chainplate covers you have to get sealant inside the vertical part as well as on the bottom. They are really messy to work with and I don't know how butyl tape will work on the vertical piece unless you try to force it in from above once they are in place. I put two beads of sealant inside the vertical piece but a lot of it wipes off on the chainplate as you set it on, so I then forced more into the gap at the top. We're drought stricken around these parts this year so it really hasn't had a good test but so far the two I installed seem to be OK. Only two because they only fit on the cap shroud chainplates, not the lowers.