Hello. This is my third thread in 5 minutes. I promise this is the last. I get soot on the transom when motoring which is noticeable if I motor 2 hours or more. The engine has 1800 hours, is regularly serviced, and while the soot is greater since I installed the Gori propeller the soot accumulated with the old propeller too. There's no visible black smoke, but I'm going to back off another 100 rpms at cruising speed to see if this reduces the soot. My M35B is, apparently, a light smoker. I have toyed with Steve Frost's suggestion to adjust the maximum fuel adjustment nut, but I don't want to open a can of worms. Since there is no visible smoke, I guess I'll just swab off the transom after an extended motor. Or maybe sail more. Ideas?
Kevin Schempf
"Windfall" #1918
2000 C-36 Mk II TR/WK
Traverse City, Michigan
Kevin,
Have you had your injectors serviced (rebuilt) or replaced? I seem to remember that W/U recommends every 1000 hours or so. That might be a contributing factor. The new prop is definitely another factor.
Tom Sokoloski
C36/375IA Past Commodore
Noank, CT
Tom's idea is good but I think part of it is just having a diesel. Take a look at a diesel sport fishing boat's stern after a fishing trip (around here it would be out to the Canyon which is ...I think... a 4 hour trip for them, two weeks or so for us)) and you'll see what I mean.
Chuck Parker
HelenRita 2072 Mk II
2002 Tall Rig - Winged Keel
Atlantic Highlands, NJ
BTW - What's the best product you've found to remove this soot?
---- Howard & Linda Matwick ----
--- S/V "Silhouette" - Nanaimo, BC ----
--- 1999 C36 MkII #1776 M35BC ---
A little polishing compound on a rag is what I've found works best, but would love to know other ideas.
Matthew Chachère
s/v ¡Que Chévere!
(Formerly 1985 C36 MKI #466 tall rig fin keel M25)
2006 Catalina Morgan 440 #30.
Homeported in eastern Long Island, NY
I am going to use Windex Spray this season to clean the carbon black.It worked great on the boat this spring to clean stern and other stained places.
Jack F Stewart
1993 C36 #1233"Windancer"
Port Clinton, OH
I use Spray Nine, takes multiple applications but it gets it off. Or All Off, takes fewer applications but it's about 3X the price.
Even after my usual spring cleaning with Fantastic, I still had some fairly large areas that were still soot stained. I wound up hitting it with FSR, which did a really good job of removing the stubborn stains. I had the FSR out to remove the Chesapeake mud stain around the waterline, so gave it a try on the soot and it worked out well.
Gary and Cathy Price
1997 C36 Mk II Tall Rig/Wing Keel Imagine...
Hull # 1617
Worton Creek, Md.
Northern Chesapeake Bay
I learned about this stuff on cruisersforum
[url]http://www.homedepot.com/p/Gel-Gloss-12-oz-One-Step-Fiberglass-Aerosol-C...
They also make it in a liquid, a can the size of a small acetone can. HD didn't have that in stock. The skipper on cruisersforum spoke very highly of it. I cleaned up the transom and underneath the bustle with FSR and boat soap (Simple Green) and then used this stuff. Seems to work better than the Collinite Fleetwax, which would tend to "catch" dirt. A simple hose works well to keep it clean. For $7 bucks it was worth it, 'cuz that's a hard area to get to.
Stu Jackson, C34IA Secretary, C34 #224, 1986, SR/FK, M25 engine, Rocna 10 (22#)
Stu, it's not hard to reach at all, as long as you can swim and wax at the same time ;) Too bad I can't do that:rolleyes:
Gary and Cathy Price
1997 C36 Mk II Tall Rig/Wing Keel Imagine...
Hull # 1617
Worton Creek, Md.
Northern Chesapeake Bay
I think you could hire some of the those Sycronized Swimmers that do the water ballet's. They could put the wax on while you watch.
Cepheus dream
C36 MK I # 825
MK I Tech Editor No Mas
Hey, great idea. But I consider myself fortunate that my wife lets me go away to the boat by myself (retired) while she slaves away at home to support me. Somehow I think the waxing/synchronized swimming beauties might jeopardize that arrangement.! :p
Gary and Cathy Price
1997 C36 Mk II Tall Rig/Wing Keel Imagine...
Hull # 1617
Worton Creek, Md.
Northern Chesapeake Bay
[QUOTE=plaineolde;18301]Stu, it's not hard to reach at all, as long as you can swim and wax at the same time ;) Too bad I can't do that:rolleyes:[/QUOTE]
Without the swimming beauties, I just turned our boat around in our slip (we go bow in normally), and used an ACE Hardware extender.
I must admit that I couldn't figure out why or how the mermaids were trying to pull me into the water. :confused:
Stu Jackson, C34IA Secretary, C34 #224, 1986, SR/FK, M25 engine, Rocna 10 (22#)
Gary,
I have a very similar situation, not retired, just tired. The bathing beauties would likely risk my scrubbing an inflatable dingy rather than the transom of a C36.
Cepheus dream
C36 MK I # 825
MK I Tech Editor No Mas
Kevin - please don't feel that 3 posts are too many - it's what most of us are here for any way.
I and the Admiral just made a boat move from Sandusky Ohio to Cheboygan Mi - 10 days - and you should see my transom! And - just after the Admiral put 2 coats of Fleetwax on it!
I was searching for this info and surprised to see so many with this issue. I've seen some boats with extended pipes - hoses sticking down into the water - etc - but I don't think that completely fixes the issue. Diesels smoke and with our transoms and canvas's creating an air pocket behind the boat - I think it is a common problem. We even got it in our cockpit on the trailing wind days so we had to ventilate more. I would love to hear that someone has a solution - but I won't hold my breath.
We also used the Spray Nine and it did eventually come off but I'm going to try to use the product from Home Depot to see if it's better. And - YES Sail More!!!
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Harold Baker
S/V Lucky Duck
Duncan Bay Boat Club
Cheboygan Michigan - Lake Huron
1989 C-36 mkI TR/WK M25XP
I see this as a common problem with all diesel engines.They are just dirtier than most gasoline burning engines - just look at your engine oil for comparason. Nevertheless, we are using a product called 'L.A. Awesome' found at the Dollar Store and other vendors with success. Seems to cut through the diesel soot with ease. Stubborn stains can be remover with Oxcilic acid (or FSR) Severe stains with a solution of toilet bowl cleaner or muriatic acid- which must be used with caution.
Bill Dolan 1990 Catalina C-36 MKI - Hull #1041 'Williwaw'
Std. Rig, Walk Through, Wing Keel
M35, Oberdorfer Conversion,
Home Waters; Charlotte Harbor & The Gulf Islands of Florida
'You are never out of work if you own a boat'