Where to mark the furled Genoa?

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catalinapilot
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Where to mark the furled Genoa?

I have a 150 Genny and where there's too much wind all the books say to "experiment" with the amount to furl and mark the sail and genoa tracks.

Being somewhat lazy and knowing that more than a few C36 members have already gone through this exercise wondered if anyone would mind sharing the markings - no liability attached. Would appreciate it in inches furled from fill out and where you find the best position for the genny cars .

Boat is a MKII with wing keel and tall rig.

Many Thanks....

Bruce

Bruce
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Chesapeake Bay

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I used the ultimate lazy method. When the sail was washed last by the sail loft, I had them sew two pieces of sunbrella on the baseof the sail. The shop marked the first sunbrella strip to equate to a 125% and the second to equate to a 110%. I sail a 135 as I sail in Maine and a 150 makes seeing lobster buoys almost impossible to see.

I think the best method is trial and error. When it is windy, at any specific true wind, roll the sail in until the boat sails true with little or no weather helm or rounding up. Then simply mark the sail. I used tell tales that you can buy at West Marine. You can mark the windward side while sailing and then back at the mooring or dock on a calm day add the tell tale to the other side. I like the tell tale idea because now when you furl (reef) the genoa you always having a visible tell tale which is not the case unless you have added them all along the sail.

When I say tell tales, I am talking the ones with an red or green adhesive circle with the nylon tail. One of my female mates call them sperms. She is always looking for happy sperms, her words not mine.

Ned Black
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catalinapilot
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Thanks, Ned. I agree with you that the 150 makes it difficult to see where you're going and had I to do it over again, would opt for the 135. But this is what came with the boat. It also let's you blow by lesser boats in lighter air - priceless.

I do like your idea of adding tell tales to read the sail beyond the furling points. Any 150 owners want to weigh in with their thoughts or measurements?

.....Bruce

Bruce
Southern Comfort #1881
Tall rig, Wing Keel
Chesapeake Bay

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Bruce,
I found that I could carry the 150 well into 22-25 kts apparent, but that was only if I reefed the main at somewhere around 18-20 kts. With a reefed main and a 150, Julandra would just fly, and not round up (fin keel, tall rig). It was very well balanced with a reefed main. It also helps to have the reefing lines come back to the cockpit, so it's not a huge chore to throw in or shake out a reef.

Tom Sokoloski
C36/375IA Past Commodore
Noank, CT

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Was it fin or shoal keel, Tom?

Yeah, with my 135 I will always reef the main first. Have seen 8 kts on a calibrated knotmeter. Don't have wind instruments, but must have been in the high-teens true.

Larry Brandt
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Larry & Tom....

Reefing the main somewhere about 15 knots relieves the weather helm and I guess as long as the boat stays in balance and not heeled to far it shouldn't be a problem. I'll do some trial and error and perhaps post the findings if I can consistently duplicate good handling.

Bruce
Southern Comfort #1881
Tall rig, Wing Keel
Chesapeake Bay

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