I thread the jib sheet between the upper and lower lifelines. Seems to be the correct placement except when running close hauled. At close hauled, the upper lifeline restrict the ability to pull the jib in all the way. I've never run the jib sheet inside both upper and lower lifelines. I would expect it would rub heavily on the upper lifeline when running down wind or on a broad reach. Comments? Do some route the sheet depending on running or reaching? This might be a dumb question - readily answered by being on the boat looking at the block and line layout, but not possible now that she is under her winter cover.
Thanks
Paul & Wendy Keyser
"First Light"
Rye NH
2005 C36 MKII #2257
Wing, M35B
I have the sheets inside both lifelines upwind (using the inner track) and outside both going downwind (using the toerail track). If I am bearing off and the wind isn't strong I'll make the sheet fast on the midships cleat so I can re-route it outside the lifelines. I have seen people with double sheets but that seems like overkill to me.
Nick Tonkin
*Former* Website Administrator, C36/375IA
*Former* owner, C36 tr/fk #255, Santa Barbara, CA
Paul,
I do the same as Nick. Inside track and inside the lifelines almost all the time. Only occasionally use the outside track. One item that helps a lot is adjustable genoa cars. Garhauer makes really nice ones for a reasonable price. Wind goes aft, car goes forward. Hope this helps.
Tom Sokoloski
C36/375IA Past Commodore
Noank, CT
I do the same thing but in reverse. I only use my inside tracks for close hauled where I want the sail as near to centerline as possible. For all else I use my outside track which have the adjustable sheet cars.
Tom, Nick I'm curious why you do in reverse? I have a 155 jib and it feels to me like the outside track gives me more shaping capabilities without having to worry about the jib sheet hitting the lifelines.
Enrique
Enrique
Talisman
1998 36 MK2 Hull #1673
Tall Rig Wing Keel
M35BC engine
Old Saybrook, CT Summer
South Glastonbury, CT Winter
Well, first let me say that there are tons of people on this site who have decades more time sailing than I, maybe decades more on a C36!!
But for me it seems that there is less interference with the lifelines when the clew is inside them, for the most prevalent conditions where I sail. (Where I sail I am almost always on a close reach or close haul, crossing the Channel and its winds.) I usually always want that sail flat. And another thing: I am often reefed and end up with a 110% or smaller sail, which again does better on the inside track.
I quite agree that sheet outside lifelines = more shaping ability. I just need my foresail flat the majority of the time.
Not this week though, got a 100-mile run down to Catalina coming up and the sheets will most definitely be outside the lifelines!
Nick Tonkin
*Former* Website Administrator, C36/375IA
*Former* owner, C36 tr/fk #255, Santa Barbara, CA
Thanks everyone.
Seems like the previous owner still has the genoa cars for the outside tracks. Now it makes sense
Paul & Wendy Keyser
"First Light"
Rye NH
2005 C36 MKII #2257
Wing, M35B
Don't know if there was a difference with MkI and MkII tracks, but I never need to run sheets between the lifelines (at least not yet) and nor have I used the outside track (other than for an adjustable cleat). But always willing to try new things.
With my 135 (OEM - which makes a difference, I'm sure) and adjustable cars on inside track; I sheet the cars right aft to about 10 inches short of the end of the track when close-hauled and forward to about the same amount of the forward end when running wing on wing,,,
Do other MkII owners do the same, or when do you use the outside track?
---- Howard & Linda Matwick ----
--- S/V "Silhouette" - Nanaimo, BC ----
--- 1999 C36 MkII #1776 M35BC ---
Like I said, I use the toerail track when running because there isn't a fair lead from the inside track up and out to where the clew wants to be. If I use the inside track downwind my sheet is bent over the lifeline.
Nick Tonkin
*Former* Website Administrator, C36/375IA
*Former* owner, C36 tr/fk #255, Santa Barbara, CA