Hi looking for some opinions , We have a c36 mk11 1996 , we need to motor her for around 10 hours in open sea will do it in calm conditions would you advise single journey or split it in two runs,is it to much for her,or will she take it easily .Has anyone ran there engines for as long as this if so what should i look for and prepare for , Would hope to run her at around 6knts is that exxpecting to much of her . thanks all opinions would be great
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Geileis
Hull 1489
1995
Fin Keel
U shape Lounge
Westerbeke M35 engine
Mikuni heating
Second best thing that ever happened to me
We motor sailed Caprice from Grand Bahamas to Florida with jib only in 3-5 foot seas, wind up to 20-25 kts from the S-SE for more than ten hours with no problem. Kept the motor at 2300 rpm. Speeds varied because of the wave action.
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Punta Gorda Florida
1990 Std WK M35 Hull #1050
Cussy,
If you had an adequate fuel supply, you could easily motor for 100 hours, change the oil, and then motor for another 100 hours. 10 hours is no problem at all. Most owners find that keeping the RPM's around 23-2500 is a decent balance between speed and fuel consumption. Diesels are meant to be run. It is more harmful to let them sit idle for months or years at a time.
Tom Sokoloski
C36/375IA Past Commodore
Noank, CT
Thanks Tom very helpful cheers
Geileis
Hull 1489
1995
Fin Keel
U shape Lounge
Westerbeke M35 engine
Mikuni heating
Second best thing that ever happened to me
A number of times - and planning another trip north in April - we have motored from Astoria, Oregon to the Strait of Juan de Fuca (and return, of course), usually our first northbound stop being an Indian village on the NW corner of Washington State called Neah Bay. The trip takes about 31 hours nonstop.
I carry four 5-gallon plastic cans of diesel. Somewhere around 3/4 of the trip I add more fuel, maybe two or three of the jugs. Refueling is a real challenge in any sort of sea state, even in benign swells, because of the weight of the full jugs of fuel. Fueling is awkward, and you need a large funnel plus a LOT of care and patience to prevent fuel from spilling in the sea. It's a two person job in a seaway.
As stated elsewhere, if you had sufficient fuel there's nothing to stop you from running the engine for a hundred, indeed a thousand hours.
Larry Brandt
S/V High Flight #2109
Pacific Northwest, PDX-based
2002 C-36 mkII SR/FK M35B
Larry-
I've had some good luck with these simple siphons...I keep one for diesel and one for water. No more big spills on deck or mouthfuls of diesel!
Of course, you will still need a funnel for the bottom inch or so left in the jerry can, but it is much easier to pour. Check out the video:
http://charliescharts.com/cruisers-siphon.html
Matt
Matthew Becherer
s/v Constellation
Catalina 36 MKII, #2104
Wing Keel, Standard Rig, Universal M-35BC
Miami, FL
Matt, it's brilliant! I ordered one immediately. A great idea, and I am looking forward to trying it out on my trip from the Columbia River to the Strait of Juan de Fuca. Thank you for the tip.
Larry Brandt
S/V High Flight #2109
Pacific Northwest, PDX-based
2002 C-36 mkII SR/FK M35B
I have had one of these for 6 or 7 years and they are great
Bill Miller
S/V Lorraine
Pacific Northwest,Sound Sound
Grapeview,Wa
1990 Mk1
Great tip.!
Chuck Lennox
97 MKii Ventura Ca
Island Girl Hull #1611
Echoing others, I've motored 12-15 hours straight on a couple of ocassions, and had no problems. As Soko said, these engines love to be run.
Phil L
Southern Cross
Channel Islands, CA
C36MKI #400
Thanks alot for all your advice , been used to french and german boats as they are ten a penny over here and they dont like being motored long term so was a bit aprehensive she is our first catalina and believe she is the only one in the UK being the 36 mk11 as a family she is the first boat that we have owned that even the kids tell me "dad we love her" and from three teenagers that is a very rare statement indeed again thanks for all your advise regards Kenny
Geileis
Hull 1489
1995
Fin Keel
U shape Lounge
Westerbeke M35 engine
Mikuni heating
Second best thing that ever happened to me
Wotcha Kenny,
You should maybe get in touch with Chris Savage, who's has a C36 MkII on the South Coast for at least seven years .... https://www.catalina36.org/users/tacky-too ....
I know Chris is more active on the e-mail list than here in the forums, dunno if you are subscribed to the list: http://list.catalina36.org/mailman/listinfo/list_list.catalina36.org
There may be others, too. One of these days I hope to introduce a tool to look up Members near you.
Nick Tonkin
*Former* Website Administrator, C36/375IA
*Former* owner, C36 tr/fk #255, Santa Barbara, CA
Found this at Harbor Freight, a 'self-priming jiggler pump'. $7.99.
http://www.harborfreight.com/self-priming-copper-jiggler-pump-47334.html
Larry Brandt
S/V High Flight #2109
Pacific Northwest, PDX-based
2002 C-36 mkII SR/FK M35B
I bought one of harbor fraights and it was junk pay the 12 to15 and get a good one
Bill Miller
S/V Lorraine
Pacific Northwest,Sound Sound
Grapeview,Wa
1990 Mk1
Will do. Thanks for the tip.
Larry Brandt
S/V High Flight #2109
Pacific Northwest, PDX-based
2002 C-36 mkII SR/FK M35B
I used a number of different jiggler siphon hoses traveling to the Bahamas from Vermont last year with a number of over night motor-sails. Even in large swells is was relatively easy to put a five gallon jug against the rear stantion/life-lines where it stays put and use a jiggler siphon to transfer fuel. Make sure once you get a flow established, you get the brass jiggler to the bottom lowest corner of the jug and you will leave only a cup or two of fuel in the jug. Not enough to waste your time pouring the remainder in the fuel tank.
I have used the Harbor Freight siphon. The jiggler check valve works quite well, but the cheap thin walled plastic hose collapses on itself choking off the flow. I replaced the hose with a stiffer tube and it worked fine.
I keep the siphon in a plastic bag with a couple fuel absorber pads.
Pay attention on the C36 since Catalina placed the fuel and port water tank filler caps next to each other.
By the way, my favorite rail fuel can is the Briggs & Stratton 85956 Diesel 5 gallon fuel can.
Narrow, wider base than top. Easy to get around when on the rail. It is a thicker walled plastic fuel can than others I have used.
Nile Schneider
Mañana C36 #1798
Lake Champlain, VT
First, we motored from Cabo San Lucas to Turtle Bay for 88 hours non-stop. Second, we carried 55 gallons of diesel on deck refueling the main tank once each day. We discovered while cruising, the easiest way to refuel is to have one long tube and one rather short tube, may be 18" long. Both tubes go into the container we are refueling from. The long tube goes to a WM Baja style filter which is inserted in the fuel port to the main tank. Using a plastic bag and some rags I seal the open space between the two tubes in the tank with the diesel. I then simply blow hard into the short tube (not too hard if the tank is very full or you may get a blow-back). The extra pressure now forces the siphoning action. I have tried all sorts of pumps and found them too fiddling to use at sea and not always reliable.
John Meyer
John Meyer
Hilbre
C36 MKll, Hull 2135
Cabrillo Marina, San Pedro, CA