lavrendios,

I took the liberty of creating a new thread for your questions as they are quite different than the original thread. I am sure you will see some feedback, anchor topics are always a favourite on sailing forums!

In order to help our members give you the benefit of their knowledge, could you create a signature that would include some information about your boat model? Specifically the hull number, year of manufacture, engine and style of rig (tall or standard) would be helpful. There are considerable differences between the various models. Click the UserCP link at the top left and create a signature in there (Edit Signature link).

The 3 anchors mentioned are not the only choices, many people rate Rocna and Manson equally and Bruce style anchors are very popular as well. The CQR is falling out of favour these days. We have Manson Supreme and Delta, but only ever use the Manson as it far outperforms anything else we've ever used, including the Delta. A Rocna would be as good.

With respect to your question 3, we installed a longer roller than stock (8" longer) that we bought from CatalinaDirect.com. It helps with the problem you mention (roller drum) but it does not totally solve it. It would have to be 16" or more longer than stock to solve it.

Some owners have changed the winch from the stock installation. I think you have searched the forum and didn't find an answer so hopefully some others can give you the benefit of their experience.

I know that Larry Brandt (S/V High Flight #2109); has, or is in the process of purchasing a Rocna (Which is very similar to the Manson you refer to, but narrower stock) and has information on some mods that might be recommended.

I have the original CQR (35#, made in Scotland) and because of the length of the stock I have to navigate it around the furling drum, even with a longer-than-oem roller fitting...

Yeah, I need to get writing that article about how anchors ride in the bow roller. Only four people have sent me photos of their anchors so far.

I purchased a new 20 kg (44 lb) Rocna at Fisheries in Seattle. They'll have a boat show special at the Seattle Boat Show beginning Jan 25.

While we are happy with a 45 pound Delta as our primary anchor, it would seem that the Manson Supreme and Rocna are getting lots of great praise from sailors.

I have difficulty getting the heavy anchor up on the bow roller and past the roller furling drum of the headsail. It is a price I am willing to pay at this point, but it would be a major problem for many.

You have 70m of 8mm chain. We have only 25m of 8mm chain and the rest is nylon 3-strand. That fits fine, but I can imagine that 70m does not fit well. Must you carry that much? Can you perhaps use only 40m of chain?

Larry did you have the longer roller on your boat and how does the 44 lb fit .I bought the 33 lb from fisheries and got the longer anchor roller from Cat direct but have not installed it yet we had a little cold spell up here this week

My bow roller is factory stock. I selected the 44lb (20kg) Rocna because of photos I received from John Meyer. He had to modify the bail, but otherwise the Rocna rides beautifully in the stock bow roller.

I just created a pdf as the *beginning* of a thorough survey of C36 anchors.

This survey is intended to identify different types of anchors and show how they ride in C36 bow rollers. It is NOT intended to be a venue for discussing relative holding merits, as there are so many variables, different bottoms, different rodes, different scopes, that the usefulness of the document would be compromised. If your type of anchor is not represented, then please email me information together with photos (especially photos that show in profile how the anchor rides in the bow roller).

This document will reside in the Technical - Reference Library, where it will be accessible only to paid-up Members (capital M) of the C36IA. However, for a week or so I am posting it on the C36IA homepage where it can be viewed by anyone visiting our website. Your quickest way to the C36IA homepage is by clicking 'Catalina 36 International Association' in the blue bar, lower right corner of this page.

[QUOTE=lavrendios;16254] But here in the Med, I have never heard of the Manson Supreme which everybody seems to agree to be the best.
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Thank you for your input.[/QUOTE]

Haha - Oh no, don't say anything is THE BEST or we'll have a free-for-all! :eek:

I have heard many good things about the Manson Supreme and Rocna. Which makes me ponder replacing my CQR... but it's not a change to take lightly. That's why Larry's work here is so valuable to be able to take in all the considerations.
The one thing I do worry about with the Manson Supreme ( because Manson does make a few other anchor models) is that the stock is much "taller"; because of the slot; which might make measuring in the roller and bails that much more critical...

Yes, never is there a "best" anchor for anyone but yourself. Everyone's "best" is different.

Howard, the Manson is no worse to bring up over the roller than the Delta, even though it looks like it should be it's not. The increase in holding power and ease of setting is phenomenal though. I would have bought a Rocna but at the time there were all the "bent shank" issues going on and their prices were stupid, they wanted double what Mansons sell for. Supposedly both those issues are gone now with new ownership at Rocna. Though I did see a picture of a bent Rocna 66 the other day, just not sure how old that anchor was.

If you check my anchor survey document again, you'll find at the very end of the document an installation using a double bow roller. Details and photos are there. Have a look.