Curious if anyone here has bought the shrouds from Catalina Direct to re-do their rigging? Thoughts on that 'stay-lok' system for the turnbuckles? If you did replace your rigging, did you do it with the mast standing, one shroud at a time, or did you haul your boat and pull the mast? Seems it would make sense to replace the tangs at the same time, however it seems there is a spacer/ brace ( for lack of a better term) that is internal (in the mast) that is an critical point that must be used in order to maintain structural integrity of the rig. Is it impossible to replace the tangs with the mast standing and these supports staying put or will the fall into the depths of the mast requiring to pull the mast anyway?
David Lane
S/V Grace
88' Catalina 36'
Oxnard, Ca
Rigging is a well covered topic on this site. Put some key words in the search area and you will find good info. I think most Riggers would advise unstepping and replacing all the stays and shrouds rather than piecemeal. For wire rigging, I think the suggested replacement timeframe is 10 years. Most of us probably extend that closer to 20 years. I have had rigging fail on a previous boat which very much verified to me that it does have a finite lifespan. If you pursue a re-rig, it would be interesting to share the quote with the forum readers. I had one Marina ballpark it at $15K.
Paul & Wendy Keyser
"First Light"
Rye NH
2005 C36 MKII #2257
Wing, M35B
Thanks. I'm not suggesting, piece meal, as you say. I would replace it all. I'm just wondering about doing it while the boat is floating and only doing one at a time, so as to not leave the stick free standing of course. Complete one and then on to another, and on and on. I feel like I read that somewhere before, maybe not.....
David Lane
S/V Grace
88' Catalina 36'
Oxnard, Ca
Never heard of anyone doing it with the mast up, especially in the water. If you weigh 200 lbs and are hoisted 45-50' up the mast and a small wave or wake passes beneath the hull creating a little movement at the water line, that motion will be greatly amplified at the mast head and you'll be creating 100's to 1000's of ft-lbs of torque. Doesn't sound safe, especially when absent a stay for support. Most boatyards wont let you travel up the mast when the boat is on the hard....I'm sure for liabilty should you drop, but also out concern for stability.
Paul & Wendy Keyser
"First Light"
Rye NH
2005 C36 MKII #2257
Wing, M35B
I actually talked to a rigger in the SF Bay Area two weeks ago about your question, David, in the water vs. pulling the rig.
I didn't ask about a C36, rather an Ericson 32, which has the double spreaders, which could make it more expensive.
They quoted me $3,500-$4,500 in the slip, or $4,500-$6,000 to pull the rig and do it on the hard.
This was my first time talking to a rigging shop about this, but the rigger seemed quite comfortable doing the job in the water. He said they would send a team and have it done in a long day.
I also DM'd with someone who had her Olsen 34 mast pulled recently in Portland to service it and replace all standing rigging. She said she paid $5k, which included pulling new electrical wires in the mast. She did some of the mast work herself while it was down on the hard.
BTW, if anyone has gotten a recent quote on replacing standing rigging on a C36, I'd love to hear about it, too.
Joe Bousquin
Aspiring C36 Owner
SF Bay
Joe Bousquin, San Francisco Bay
Sausalito Yacht Harbor
SV "Sylbo"
1994 Catalina 36 Mk 1.5, hull number 1337
M35A(C)