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95% Jib

Looking forward to summer sailing on San Francisco Bay.
With the typical 20-25 kts of wind in the afternoon I have had some thoughts about adding to my sail collection. I have a well worn 110 and a 135 now.
A 95% jib would be about right for most summer afternoons on the bay. In addition it would allow me to rig a self tending head sail for true lazy sailing.

Has anyone rigged there C36 for a self tended head sail?
Any thoughts?

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Steve, lotsa people in the Delta have done, with good reason. The one C34 I know who had that rig and who moved from Stockton to the Bay removed it immediately. It's just not suited for the variety of sailing we do here and is poor for downwind sailing.

I used to have a 110 that we cut down for summer sailing to a 95. It's great.

Stu Jackson, C34IA Secretary, C34 #224, 1986, SR/FK, M25 engine, Rocna 10 (22#)

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[QUOTE=stu jackson c34;872]Steve, lotsa people in the Delta have done, with good reason. The one C34 I know who had that rig and who moved from Stockton to the Bay removed it immediately. It's just not suited for the variety of sailing we do here and is poor for downwind sailing.

I used to have a 110 that we cut down for summer sailing to a 95. It's great.[/QUOTE]

Where are you sheeting your 95% jib? The local Big Blue guy suggested that i could add a block to the base of the shrouds to get a fair lead. What did you do?

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Where do y'all sail with those small sails? You must have some terrific sailing adventures. I should come out there and take some lessons in heavy weather sailing from you.

Here in Punta Gorda I use a 150%. If we get breezes of 20 mph we postpone our races. Last week we raced in 15-20 and I had to use one reef in my main.

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Mike

Yes sailing is much different on San Francisco Bay in the summer. I alway get frustrated when reading boat reviews in sailing mags based on the east coast. They invariably start the review stating something like we sailed the boat in conditions between flatulance and a zepher.

San Francisco Bay in the summer is very consistant, wind will be very light in the morning with fog, the wind will build to 5-15kts north westerlys. By noon and as the inland heats up and draws in the cool off shore marine layer and by 1 or 2 o'clock the wind will be 25Kts or above in the main bay, it will be lighter in the south bay and the area called the slot between Treasure and Angle island it is not uncommon to see 30Kts around 3 in the afternoon.

I keep my boat on the east side of the bay, most summer sailing into the main bay is timed to tack out into the main bay early usualy a counter clockwise tour to place yourself near the gate by early afternoon so when the wind picks up you can turn around and run downwind for home.

There are several micro climates that are more sheltered if you want to hide from the wind north and south of the main bay.

September through November we loose the fog and wind and get light east coast conditions after the inland land mass cools down.

The wind extreams and tides on the bay do keep you on your toes in the summer, it is also the coldest time of year on the water.

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I would be cautious about adding a block to the shroud base. Obviously, they are plenty strong enough for the vertical load, but they were not designed for a side load that a block would put on the shroud. I doubt that you would break anything, but I would guess that the shroud would start to leak at the deck after a season from working back and forth.

I would like to add a 95% jib to my sail inventory as well, as soon as there is something in the cash inventory. A self tacking jib would be the perfect sail for a daysail when you have a cockpit full of non-sailor guests who don't want to spill their drinks.

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[QUOTE=bcam;874]Where are you sheeting your 95% jib? The local Big Blue guy suggested that i could add a block to the base of the shrouds to get a fair lead. What did you do?[/QUOTE]

Bruce,

It all depends on how your sail is cut. Ours is high cut and lives on a ProFurl that is up off the deck so the foot of both of our headsails (the 95 and the 110) both are above the pulpit. Ain't great for racin' but sure works well for cruising and good (and safe) visibility.

Because of the "extra" height, both sails set well on the foremost position of the jib fairleads. We do have midships cleats in front of both fairleads.

I would caution against using a jib fairlead position that's NOT on the track. You'd have to work the trigonometry of the sail design with your most forward sheeting position.

Stu Jackson, C34IA Secretary, C34 #224, 1986, SR/FK, M25 engine, Rocna 10 (22#)

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There is a C36 MkI one finger over on C dock in Grand Marina in Alameda it has a curved track set lateraly on the fore deck just in front of the house. It has a traveler and block on this track and is obviously set up for a self tending sail.
I actually looked at this boat before I purchased mine, it was on the market at the same time and known as Das Boat, I was aboard it at the brokers dock but, never had a chance to discuss how the self tender worked out on this boat.

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Steve, see reply #3 here for a sketch of the self tending jib arrangement from Harken: [url]http://forums.catalina.sailboatowners.com/showthread.php?p=617036#post61...

Stu Jackson, C34IA Secretary, C34 #224, 1986, SR/FK, M25 engine, Rocna 10 (22#)

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I alway get frustrated when reading boat reviews in sailing mags based on the east coast.

[I][B]THAT IS BECAUSE THE EAST COAST IS THE BEST PLACE TO SAIL, well for 6 months anyway [/B][/I]

FAIR WINDS & FOLLOWING SEAS

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