I am having a problem starting my M25 engine, worked fine last time i used it about 2 weeks ago but when i tried to start it yesterday it wouldn't start. I thought it there might be a problem with the fuel getting to the injectors so i used the pump on the main fuel filter and the engine started and ran no problem. i then shut the engine off and tried to start it again no joy. I then checked the fuel pump to confirmed it was working by taking it off line and running it unattached and it worked, put it back on used the pump on the racor fuel filter made sure that the fuel was flowing out of the bleeder value just in front of the injectors, tired to start it still no joy.
so I want to try and figure out where the problem may be but since i don't have anyone to be at the helm to try and turn the motor over i need to try and start it at the engine itself, so the question is how would I use some type of jumper at the engine to engage the starter so i could observe what is going on at the engine at the time i try and turn it over.
i plan to bleed the fuel line till I am sure that there is no air in the line, i also read you can use WD40 to try and start the engine so i wanted to do that as well and i plan to double check that the kill switch is not engaged, all of which i need to do at the engine itself.
is there a way to engage the starter to the engine using a jumper wire????
Mike Hogan
s/v Ciscocat #226
Mark I XP25, std rig
Sure. You just run a jumper that connects from a) terminal where the large cable from the battery is connected to the starter motor to b) the terminal where the wire from the starter switch connects to the starter solenoid. May even be able to do this by laying a screwdriver across the terminals (I don't recall)
Just be careful when doing this -- you are reaching around some moving parts to get in there. You could, for safety's sake, temporarily wire up what would basically be a duplicate starter button in a location out of harm's way.
Matthew Chachère
s/v ¡Que Chévere!
(Formerly 1985 C36 MKI #466 tall rig fin keel M25)
2006 Catalina Morgan 440 #30.
Homeported in eastern Long Island, NY
thanks, i'll give that a shot..don't have a clue what is going on but it may make it easier to figger out what is going on, only thing i can think of is either 1) fuel is not getting to the injectors or 2) kill switch is not full dis-engaged.
Mike Hogan
s/v Ciscocat #226
Mark I XP25, std rig
PO of our boat wired in a pushbutton switch to the terminals described by Mathew,it is mounted to a bracket screwed to the bulkhead on the starboard side of the engine right beside the primary fuel filter mount on the engine. Appears to be pretty simple to do and allows cranking it from down below. I've never needed to use it, yet.
[QUOTE=Ciscocat;19401]...made sure that the fuel was flowing out of the bleeder value just in front of the injectors, tired to start it still no joy.[/QUOTE]
Mike,
There shouldn't be any fuel flowing out of that valve (we call it the "knurled knob"). Maybe that's your problem.
Stu Jackson, C34IA Secretary, C34 #224, 1986, SR/FK, M25 engine, Rocna 10 (22#)
Mike - It is easy to take a 10 Amp relay ( from Radio Shack) that has 12VDC coil and wire its Normally open contacts across the starter button that is at the helm and connect the 12 Volt coil to a 12 Volt source such as the battery. When you apply power to the coil then the contacts will place a short across the started button just as if you were at the helm pressing the button.
Haro Bayandorian, 1999 C36 MKII, Sail La Vie #1787, M35B,
Coyote Point, San Mateo, CA.
Even though it is possible, I would hate for you to have an accident with no one there to help. Be careful.
Duane Ising - Past Commodore (2011-2012)
s/v Diva Di
1999 Catalina 36 Hull #1777
Std rig; wing keel, M35B, Delta (45#)
Punta Gorda, FL
http://www.sailblogs.com/member/diva-di/
found the problem, simple to fix the kill cable was not pulling(pushing?) the lever back at all. although that is still an issue, on the list, it is simple enough to take care of it manually. I thought it would be a good idea to double check since either someone on this forum or another one mentioned that as being a problem. engine fired right up on problem. i did mange to buy a switch from autozone that has two alligator clips with a switch in the middle to allow you to engage the starter from below.. thanks for the input..
Mike Hogan
s/v Ciscocat #226
Mark I XP25, std rig