I've searched and can't fine any info on this but surely others have asked.
I've got the standard single LPG tank which lives in the locker made for it on the Port quarter of Wind Rose. I'm planning an extensive cruise and will be anchored out depending on the LPG for most of my hot meals. Is there anyway to know how much fuel is left in the tank? There's a pressure gauge on the top to the tank but that doesn't seem sensitive enough to tell me when its time to fill up. When I stop for an occaisional night or two in a marina, I'd like to know if its time to go get the tank filled. Without some kind of indicator, I'm faced with just buying a spare tank to carry as a back up. Spare aluminum tanks are expensive.
Any ideas or suggestions would be appreciated. I don't like cold food anymore than I like warm beer.
Thanks
Sam
Capt. Sam Murphy
1994 Catalina 36, Hull 1327
Shoal draft, two cabin model.
Panama City, Florida
Sam...
The tank weighs 10# empty and takes 10# of propane. I bought a fish scale (the type the other half of the boating world uses to weigh their catch) and use it to weigh the tank. This gives me a pretty good idea of when the tank is getting low. The fish scales have a hook to attach the fish and I simply take out the tank pick it up with the hook and weigh it.... if the weight is close to 10#, time for a refill.
Chuck Parker
HelenRita 2072 Mk II
2002 Tall Rig - Winged Keel
Atlantic Highlands, NJ
Sam
I bought a new composite 10# cylinder made by the Lite Cylinder Co. I paid like $82 delivered with a $10 coupon from Garden.com. It fits easily in the cylinder compartment on my '99 MK II
You can see through the tank to visually check tank level.
Mark Kozy
"COLDWATER"
1999 C36 MK2 #1742 FK/M35B
Vallejo Yacht Club-Oldest on the West Coast
Boat lives in Marina del Rey, CA (SOCAL)
I live in Placerville, CA (NORCAL)
I carry 2 of the small green propane bottles; I use them for my BBQ, and have an adapter which allows them to be attached to the boat's propane connector if the tank runs out. Two of them fit under the lid of the propane compartment. One bottle lasts a surprisingly long time, but I'm not cruising extensively, so can return to my marina to get the tank filled fairly easily. Not sure if that solution would work for you.
I like the idea of the fish scale to weigh the tank; think I'll have to pick one of those up.
Gary and Cathy Price
1997 C36 Mk II Tall Rig/Wing Keel Imagine...
Hull # 1617
Worton Creek, Md.
Northern Chesapeake Bay
There are also new composite bottles available that allow you to visually see the fluid level.
Pierview, nice tip on the weight figures, I have owned my boat for five years. I am still working off what was in the bottle when I purchased the boat with no clue what was left in the bottle. As you may assume, I do not do a lot of cooking aboard. I have cooked as much on my hot engine as on the stove.
Steve
Cepheus dream
C36 MK I # 825
MK I Tech Editor No Mas
I always seem to have plenty of 1# propane bottles aboard for the BBQ. So, like Gary, I bought an adapter. Mine came from WM.
Part No. 315269
[URL]http://www.westmarine.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/ProductDisplay?catal...
Marc & Susan Garcia
"Solla Sollew" #1473, Mk.II
San Buenaventura, Ca.
I am continually amazed at the knowledge base of this organization.
What great answers!! Thank you all. Chuck, I don't know why I didn't think of that. I've got a couple of those fish scales and will put one on board immediately. And Mark, $82 is less than half what I saw for an aluminum tank, so I'll probably order one of those as well. And Gary and Marc, I'll also go get me one of those adapters. As I also carry those green bottles for the rail mounted BBQ. I didn't know they would work. Now I'll have the issue covered three ways.
You guys are the greatist! I'll think of you all as I serve hot food to the crew.
Thank you, thank you
Sam
Capt. Sam Murphy
1994 Catalina 36, Hull 1327
Shoal draft, two cabin model.
Panama City, Florida
For anyone else interested, I found a "Propane Gass Level Indicator" that connects between the regulator and the tank fitting available at Lowes.com for $12.99 that might just be the best answer. Also found the Trident Rubber company's adapter available at Defender Marine for a lot less than WM. And then found the see-through Lite Cylinder #10 LPG tanks at Garden.com too but they're out of stock right now.
With all these solutions, I've got the problem surrounded. Thanks again for all the great help.
Sam
Capt. Sam Murphy
1994 Catalina 36, Hull 1327
Shoal draft, two cabin model.
Panama City, Florida
[QUOTE=pierview;16974]Sam...
The tank weighs 10# empty and takes 10# of propane. I bought a fish scale (the type the other half of the boating world uses to weigh their catch) and use it to weigh the tank. This gives me a pretty good idea of when the tank is getting low. The fish scales have a hook to attach the fish and I simply take out the tank pick it up with the hook and weigh it.... if the weight is close to 10#, time for a refill.[/QUOTE]
Are the aluminum ones 10 lbs, or the steel ones?
Stephen Cameron
2001 Catalina 36 MKII hull#2012
Tall Rig Fin Keel
Vancouver, BC
Sam, I have the original which I believe was a 7# tank and got the 10# tank (I'm thinking steel). We are on the boat most weekends and 2 10 day trips. Cooking meals and brewing coffee. When one runs out I replace with the other and that seems to having me fill one tank a year.
Gary Bain
S/V "Gone With The Wind"
Catalina 36', Hull #: 1056, Year: 1990, Engine: M-35
Standard Rig
Moored: Boothbay Harbor, Maine
Home: Auburn, Maine
Digger... I never thought about that but when I had it filled, they filled it up to a total combined weight of 20 #'s and said it was a 10 pounder. I'd have to actually look at it to answer your question and the spring wx is really crappy in NJ today so I wont be going down to the harbor.
Chuck Parker
HelenRita 2072 Mk II
2002 Tall Rig - Winged Keel
Atlantic Highlands, NJ
We don't have or use a BBQ aboard, or the adapter for the small bottles would be a good idea for when the main 10# tank runs out. Our PO had a holder made of starboard that sits on the stern rail and holds our spare 10# tank. That location allows for any escaping gas to stay out of the boat.
On our recent 7 month cruise, we went through about 2 tanks worth, but not easy to tells since we started and ended with a partially full tank. We were surprised how many ports did not have easy access to propane refills without a car.
Duane Ising - Past Commodore (2011-2012)
s/v Diva Di
1999 Catalina 36 Hull #1777
Std rig; wing keel, M35B, Delta (45#)
Punta Gorda, FL
http://www.sailblogs.com/member/diva-di/
Duane, I followed the daily blog of your cruise up the East Coast and back and I seem to remember that yall cooked a lot, so I'm surprised that you only used a couple of tanks or less.
And just a follow up, I found the LPG level guage available at Walmart, Lowes and Home Depot, all for about $12. Bought one to put on board. It screws on between the tank and the gas line and will help to know that I'm near empty on a tank before I but a cake in the oven. (The cake is really not that likely honestly but you get the idea.;))
Capt. Sam Murphy
1994 Catalina 36, Hull 1327
Shoal draft, two cabin model.
Panama City, Florida
Hi, Sam.
We have found that propane is a pretty efficient cooking fuel and we don't use as much as you might think.
Speaking of baking, I used to bake a lot of rum cakes, but my doctor wanted me to cut down on the fat, sugar, and carbs, so I just drink rum, now.
Doctors orders...:)
Duane Ising - Past Commodore (2011-2012)
s/v Diva Di
1999 Catalina 36 Hull #1777
Std rig; wing keel, M35B, Delta (45#)
Punta Gorda, FL
http://www.sailblogs.com/member/diva-di/
Yes Duane! I'm with you. get rid of all that flour and sugar.
But I have a real question. If I get a spare LPG tank and keep it filled as a back up, as you have, if I just lash it onto the aft rail, sitting on the quarter deck seat there, shouldn't that be safe enough for venting any LPG overboard?
Thanks
Sam
Capt. Sam Murphy
1994 Catalina 36, Hull 1327
Shoal draft, two cabin model.
Panama City, Florida
[QUOTE=... If I get a spare LPG tank and keep it filled as a back up, as you have, if I just lash it onto the aft rail, sitting on the quarter deck seat there, shouldn't that be safe enough for venting any LPG overboard? ...[/QUOTE]
Well, I think the amount of safety against having propane fumes (which are heavier than air) flow into the cockpit and then into the boat's interior depends on several factors. If the tank location is such that any leaking gas goes directly overboard, then you are in good shape. If wind can carry the gas into the cockpit, then not as much.
Also, the bridgedeck between the cockpit and companionway is pretty high on my MK II and I believe gas would flow out the open transom before getting below. Maybe the wrong wind situation would change that.
The best solution would be to have a built-in vented locker for two tanks, of course. If you don't feel that the spare tank location is safe enough, perhaps those spare little containers and an adapter is the best answer.
Duane Ising - Past Commodore (2011-2012)
s/v Diva Di
1999 Catalina 36 Hull #1777
Std rig; wing keel, M35B, Delta (45#)
Punta Gorda, FL
http://www.sailblogs.com/member/diva-di/
We are cruising with two 10lb aluminium tanks. Cooking for two of us, we usually estimate about - 4 or 5 weeks of use per tank. We have not had any difficulty getting propane refills in Mexico.
John Meyer
Currently in La Paz, MEX
John Meyer
Hilbre
C36 MKll, Hull 2135
Cabrillo Marina, San Pedro, CA
John, That's what I want to do but where is that second 10lb tank stored?
Sam
Capt. Sam Murphy
1994 Catalina 36, Hull 1327
Shoal draft, two cabin model.
Panama City, Florida